Autococker Bolt O Ring Question

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  • pearcem
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    • Jul 2020
    • 223

    #1

    Autococker Bolt O Ring Question

    Any actual downside to running autococker bolts without O rings (or at least the front one)? Specifically on a pump

    I have a pump that I am trying to smooth out the stroke on. It is an ID gun, with ID bolt, and it seems like the front O ring is dragging a ton on the detents. I realized I have always either had guns that were pumps with O ring-less bolts like CCM, or most of my guns with O rings on the bolts were set up as mechs.

    Trying some different sizes would always be an option as well. Thanks
  • Trbo323
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 6381
    • Vancouver WA

    #2
    Efficiency really, maybe some consistency as well but I'm all honesty, I would try it and see what happens.

    Also go down a size and see what happens

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    • Jordan
      I. Am. Canadian. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
      • Jul 2020
      • 3508
      • Southern Ontario, Canada

      #3
      WGP got rid of the front oring on the bolt in 2000 or 2001 I think.... you'll be fine without it.

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      • lew
        Devious Dirtbag
        • Jul 2020
        • 1035
        • WY

        #4
        Unless the bolt is a really loose fit in the bore, you'll be fine. My most efficient Cocker just had a Delrin bolt without o-ring grooves.
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        • Magmoormaster
          Only here for the zipline
          • Jul 2020
          • 1304
          • Glendale, AZ

          #5
          Most of my teammates take one of the detents out of their empire/id guns for this reason. Unless you’re using a high tension force feed loader, I’d be more inclined to do that than pull the oring off the bolt. Id bolts have blowback problems as it is.

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          • Jonnydread
            Wild Card
            • Jul 2020
            • 4461
            • Lil Rhody

            #6
            I don't use o-rings on my delrin bolts and they're fine. I'm fond of ANS venturi bolts and I use thinner o-rings on them, not enough to really cause much more friction.
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            • Sniperfan
              Newbie
              • Jul 2020
              • 24

              #7
              I assume this is a Cooper-T type detent? Have you tried turning it out half a turn? I've run into this from time to time.

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