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    Need info on some and cost on all.
    first picture all cocker threads, JnJ, Tear Drop, Proto(info pls), boa(info pls), oh the only spyder thread.

    second picture, Dye and Invision. Information pls, no idea what these fit. Don't have anything that takes the thread.

    Third picture. First one is tippman fits A5 and Carbine. second no idea what it is almost looks like it's a tippman it is not, has thunder pig sticker. Third blue and silver is cocker thread idiot markings from vice someone tried to separate. Forth barrel no idea, info pls.

    Fourth pic, CP red and silver barrel.

    Fifth pic, automag barrels info on all pls. First dark grey ano. Second feels like stainless. 2&3 no idea. 5 black ano barrel. 6 milled barrel, no idea who did it. 6 barrel back feels stainless too.

    Thanks everyone, let me know if you have questions or need more pictures.

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    Third picture, fourth barrel - it is a Smart Parts All American. More precisely, it is not only the very first All American, but also one of the very first original Smart Parts products. Previously they had only drilled spiral patterns in stock barrels from different markers.

    Anyway, they sold this barrel in three different sized barrel backs, .692, .689 and .686, where they were distinguished by the color of the back. Dark gray for .692, black for .689 and light grey for .686. Yours is probably light gray, i.e. .686, although I'm not sure, depending on lighting. Oh, the barrels were glued, so not meant to switch backs and fronts.


    The Automag barrel next to the grey one - are you sure it is stainless? It looks very similar to a nickle plated J&J to me.
    The black Automag barrel looks like a stock Bull Barrel.

    I'm not sure of the value of either of the barrels, sorry.
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      #3
      I wish I was one of those guys that could just look at a thread on a barrel and say " that belongs to the third iteration of a the splatboomer marker made in 1993." However I'm the guy trying to screw a automag twist lock barrel into a impulse...

      With that being said, the second barrel in the Dye lot looks like older angel thread. If it turns out to be sterling though, I am very interested!
      Last edited by shooter311; 03-27-2022, 09:31 AM.

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        #4
        I have no clue what they’re worth, but I’m anxiously awaiting for that teardrop to pop up on a BST thread….the vultures are circling…
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          #5
          The BOA barrel in the first pic is a BOA Snakebite. I'd consider it the most famous BOA barrel. I'd list it at $50.
          The Spyder threaded barrel to the right of it has the anno pattern of the Speedmaster/SE/Rodeo. Not much value in it over shipping cost if it's a factory barrel.

          I am interested in the black Dye Aluminim barrel in the second picture.
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            #6
            Originally posted by shooter311 View Post
            I wish I was one of those guys that could just look at a thread on a barrel and say " that belongs to the third iteration of a the splatboomer marker made in 1993." However I'm the guy trying to screw a automag twist lock barrel into a impulse...

            With that being said, the second barrel in the Dye lot looks like older angel thread. If it turns out to be sterling though, I am very interested!
            Oh I do have a sterling, will try it on that.

            Also what is the best way and cost effective to ship barrels?
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            • JeepDVLZ45

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              I wrap mine in bubblewrap (if I don’t have a plastic sleeve) and ship via a padded envelope. Not sure if that’s the most cost effective, but it works for me

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              I started using a website pirateship.com. i just shipped a large padded envelope with some printed items to JeepDVLZ45. With tracking it cost a little over $3. The rates on there are way better than going to the post office

            #7
            Originally posted by Olsson View Post
            Third picture, fourth barrel - it is a Smart Parts All American. More precisely, it is not only the very first All American, but also one of the very first original Smart Parts products. Previously they had only drilled spiral patterns in stock barrels from different markers.

            Anyway, they sold this barrel in three different sized barrel backs, .692, .689 and .686, where they were distinguished by the color of the back. Dark gray for .692, black for .689 and light grey for .686. Yours is probably light gray, i.e. .686, although I'm not sure, depending on lighting. Oh, the barrels were glued, so not meant to switch backs and fronts.


            The Automag barrel next to the grey one - are you sure it is stainless? It looks very similar to a nickle plated J&J to me.
            The black Automag barrel looks like a stock Bull Barrel.

            I'm not sure of the value of either of the barrels, sorry.
            Were the first All American cocker thread, this fits ule and micromag.

            I think you might be right on the nickel plated on. The BOA and that seem to have a different finish. Both are pretty heavy compared to any other barrel.
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              Originally posted by shooter311 View Post
              I wish I was one of those guys that could just look at a thread on a barrel and say " that belongs to the third iteration of a the splatboomer marker made in 1993." However I'm the guy trying to screw a automag twist lock barrel into a impulse...

              With that being said, the second barrel in the Dye lot looks like older angel thread. If it turns out to be sterling though, I am very interested!
              Seems you are growing young padawan. The Dye and the one with the thunder pig sticker fit the sterling. Shorter threads than the stock. Oh and the tip on the thunder pig sticker unscrews, if that helps to ID.
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                Dang! I am on a roll, let's try another! The third dye barrel in that picture screws into the microphone holder from Tiny Tim's third live performance. I would value you it at 3,640 yen.

                I have no idea on value of the dye sterling barrel, but I'm absolutely interested in that if you sell it!

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                That era Sterling has Spyder threads. Try those barrels on a Spyder and you'll see they fit.

              #9
              Originally posted by FredMnkyDad10 View Post

              Were the first All American cocker thread, this fits ule and micromag.

              I think you might be right on the nickel plated on. The BOA and that seem to have a different finish. Both are pretty heavy compared to any other barrel.
              The barrel in your photo, threaded into the ULE body is not the All American. The one I have marked in the photo is the All American. As far as I know, the first version of the All American barrel was available in different threads, twistlock included. It was also the barrel that came stock with the Smart Part version of the Micromag.

              The JJ would be quite heavy, since it is brass under that nickle plating. I forgot to mention that.

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              • scottieb

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                The AA looks like original Shocker threads. It should fit the PV1, 4x4, and SFT.

              • Olsson

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                It may very well be original Shocker. They do tend to look like cocker threads at a casual glance, and it should explain why it fit in neither of FredMnkyDad10's markers, since none of the listed takes OG Shocker/SFT threaded barrels.

                IIRC Smart Parts shipped their Shoebox Shockers with the glued All American just like this one. The SFT while having the same threads were shipped with the two part All American, being the next hot thing from the Garner brothers. So quite the nice find for someone who wants their Shoebox Shocker to be restored to its original glory.

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              Originally posted by Olsson View Post

              The barrel in your photo, threaded into the ULE body is not the All American. The one I have marked in the photo is the All American. As far as I know, the first version of the All American barrel was available in different threads, twistlock included. It was also the barrel that came stock with the Smart Part version of the Micromag.

              The JJ would be quite heavy, since it is brass under that nickle plating. I forgot to mention that.

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              I should read carefully. Got it, so that one does not fit anything I have, cocker, sterling tippmann, even tried spyder,ion and G4.

              The back almost seems to be same length as the sterling, but the threads are different.
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                #11
                The way the front portion of that one is cut looks like a5 threads.

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                  Originally posted by Macdave06 View Post
                  The way the front portion of that one is cut looks like a5 threads.

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                  Yeah tried it on A5 and carbine. Not only cut different but outside diameter is too. Wont fit inside the tippmann. A5 on the left.
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                    #13
                    You may have mixed up the barrels, or the descriptions you've gotten of them. The Dye barrel with Angel or Sterling threads that shooter311 referred to should be the one I have marked in the photo below. It is easily spotted by the unusually long part before the threads.

                    Both Angel/WDP and Sterling/Arrow Precision used similar metric threads and needed the length to reach the breach in their respective barrel. One is longer than the other and will fit, but with a visible gap between the body, and where the actual barrel is no longer milled down. I can't remember which way it is though. Oh, and Angel/WDP had a nasty habit of switching their threading between almost every model they made.

                    Also - scottieb most probably nailed the thread on the All American, OG Shocker/SFT. See above in the thread.


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                      #14
                      Olsson you are awesome bro. When I pulled the sterling I tried all the barrels that were different, only the top two above fit.
                      the one you circled above might be an angel, I have not had an angel since 2001 or around there.
                      funny enough I have a shoebox shocker on the way to me, so I will be able to test that.
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                        I might point out the obvious here, but your Sterling doesn't take Sterling threads. As scottieb pointed out, your Sterling is a late version that uses Spyder threads. So the mystery barrel with the long threads may actually be an original Sterling threaded barrel, since they are very much like some versions of Angel threads.

                        If your Sterling had actual Sterling threads, it would take the barrel in question. I just can't remember if it leaves a gap inside the breach, or if it leavers a gap between the body and the barren milling. It is one way or the other - and the other way around with a Sterling barrel on an Angel.
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