Pricing for Karnis, Excal, Cold Fusion, more

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  • FauxyOne
    Newbie
    • Aug 2025
    • 9

    #1

    Pricing for Karnis, Excal, Cold Fusion, more

    UPDATE

    SOLD EVERYTHING

    A gentleman who shall remain nameless came to me with a solid offer, I took it. Terms of our deal will remain undisclosed.

    Thank you very much for the feedback and interaction. It was very helpful. Y’all are good folks.

    ——————

    Coming in hot from the r/autocockers101. Those folks sent me here. Hoping this is a good place for this. If not, my apologies.

    I’m looking to sell everything in the pics in a single-sale bundle. Wondering about pricing.

    Two Karnivores, matching barrel kits, a Planet Eclipse Cold Fusion, some cocker bodies, frames, parts and barrels, an AKALMP Excalibur, a Phantom pump, empire loaders, all of it.

    I can’t guarantee anything works out of the box, because I haven’t played with them for over a decade. You know the deal, they worked great when I put them away, but I can’t guarantee they run.

    Thoughts? pricing? eBay as a single sale? Auction or buy it now? Let me know.​
    Last edited by FauxyOne; 08-05-2025, 08:17 PM. Reason: SOLD
  • moving_target
    Wicked Smaht
    • Jul 2020
    • 520
    • MI

    #2
    If you're trying to just get rid of everything at once I feel like ebay might be your best bet, just because that is a large lot and auctioning might get some competition going to get the price set.

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    • Ecapnation
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 4210
      • South Central Long Island

      #3
      Cold Fusion cockers were P&P not planet eclipse..

      Street on black/yellow karnies is around 900-1100 functional and based on condition and board type

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      • superman
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 3348
        • Mount Pleasant, SC

        #4
        A few things i see worth noting.
        Tank is expired and worth tossing vs shipping.
        Halo is missing lid and battery door. probably worth tossing at that point.
        bottom karni looks like it has a bent ram shaft.
        Top karni looks like the ram is bent.
        I don't see a 2k5 back block in the lot.
        Raceframe is there, battery is in the lot, but i don't see a front block.
        black eblade is missing a trigger.
        excal is missing the feedneck and reg bottom.

        In all seriousness this is one of those lots you may want to consider selling off a few items and then selling the rest to someone that wants to deal with it.
        karni's have been a weird market lately as 2 different companies have released versions in the last year.
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        • FauxyOne
          Newbie
          • Aug 2025
          • 9

          #5
          Originally posted by Ecapnation
          Cold Fusion cockers were P&P not planet eclipse..
          I could swear I bought that as a complete marker from
          PE because it has a PE frame…

          ooh! I think I remember now. Bought it as a mechanical cocker with one of the angled feedneck bodies in the pic. Upgraded it to an ecocker with vertical feed using some Planet Eclipse parts. I even might have sent it off to them?

          Then I bought the Karnis when they dropped and that marker became a loaner/backup.​

          Originally posted by Ecapnation
          Street on black/yellow karnies is around 900-1100 functional and based on condition and board type


          That’s good info! Thank you.

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          • Socalpumpballer
            Bunker Buster
            • Nov 2020
            • 202

            #6
            That would be a very expensive lot to sell at once, it would limit your buyers. That being said you’re going to sell everything seperate you’re going to have to have a pretty good description on the condition of everything. Like others have said just throw away the air tank, it’s not even worth saving the regulator

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            • FauxyOne
              Newbie
              • Aug 2025
              • 9

              #7
              Originally posted by superman
              A few things i see worth noting.
              Tank is expired and worth tossing vs shipping.
              yeah, I wasn’t sure about that. The internal reg should still be solid.

              Originally posted by superman
              Halo is missing lid and battery door. probably worth tossing at that point.


              All three halos have broken/missing lids. But I believe they are intact and working otherwise. One of them has the aftermarket Delrin drive cone, which was great.

              Originally posted by superman
              Raceframe is there, battery is in the lot, but i don't see a front block.


              Dude! You guys are helping me decipher my history with these markers. The front block might be on the Cold Fusion. I think maybe that marker went like this:

              Cold Fusion mechanical with angled feedneck -> Cold Fusion vertical feedneck -> Raceframe with RF front block -> PE electronic frame with RF front -> ooooh, black and gold, NM I’m buying a Karni

              Originally posted by superman
              karni's have been a weird market lately as 2 different companies have released versions in the last year.
              Are there different prices for different serial #s in the original WGP version(s)?

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              • FauxyOne
                Newbie
                • Aug 2025
                • 9

                #8
                Originally posted by Socalpumpballer
                That would be a very expensive lot to sell at once, it would limit your buyers. That being said you’re going to sell everything seperate you’re going to have to have a pretty good description on the condition of everything. Like others have said just throw away the air tank, it’s not even worth saving the regulator
                I’m hoping I can clear real money without having to become an expert on the current market for all these different items. In exchange for me not having to become an expert again, I want to leave enough margin in play that a knowledgeable buyer can flip the various component pieces for really respectable returns.

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                • FauxyOne
                  Newbie
                  • Aug 2025
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Originally posted by moving_target
                  If you're trying to just get rid of everything at once I feel like ebay might be your best bet, just because that is a large lot and auctioning might get some competition going to get the price set.
                  I have an eBay auction sitting in drafts. Waiting to get some expert feedback in a few places to decide how/if to proceed that route.

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                  • FauxyOne
                    Newbie
                    • Aug 2025
                    • 9

                    #10
                    I obviously need more and better pics of individual items. I’m going to work on that today. It’s a PITA because rn I’ve got 1 bar for cell and no WiFi, but such is life.

                    I’ll post here with an URL when there’s more to look at online.

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                    • Junglepeanut
                      I would rather be fishing
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1473

                      #11
                      An "as is" ebay auction will bring in a good chunk of cash but for the sake of shipping some of that stuff like tanks and loaders won't bring in any more money and will just be a pain to ship. Also downside to that is there is a good chance you will have to run the auction a few times. Guessing you will get some over zealous bidders that can't pay. Obviously parting out will bring maximum money back but I understand wanting it done in one shot.

                      If it were me and I didn't want to tinker/test and get it all gone i think i would try and aim for $4000 cash and try and get somebody to pick it up....

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                      • FauxyOne
                        Newbie
                        • Aug 2025
                        • 9

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Junglepeanut
                        An "as is" ebay auction will bring in a good chunk of cash but for the sake of shipping some of that stuff like tanks and loaders won't bring in any more money and will just be a pain to ship.
                        I was on the fence about the tank, I thought maybe folks might want it for testing purposes. Hearing loud and clear that it’s a non starter.

                        I thought the hoppers would be better than just scrap plastic, but I’m clearly wrong on that front. I’ll pull those. I might include the delrin drive cone though.

                        Originally posted by Junglepeanut
                        Also downside to that is there is a good chance you will have to run the auction a few times. Guessing you will get some over zealous bidders that can't pay. Obviously parting out will bring maximum money back but I understand wanting it done in one shot.
                        I’ve been selling on eBay since 1990 and I can’t recall someone backing out over funds on one of my auctions. HOWEVER I’ve done an auction like this before, so point well taken.

                        Originally posted by Junglepeanut
                        If it were me and I didn't want to tinker/test and get it all gone i think i would try and aim for $4000 cash and try and get somebody to pick it up....
                        A number! Thank you! This is all great feedback.

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                        • Magageddon
                          Certified Post Whore
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 1219

                          #13
                          Pmd

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                          • BLachance75
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 1114
                            • Western MA

                            #14
                            This lot has CuratedPaintball’s name written all over it.
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                            • Super Nova
                              Super Nova commented
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                              Eww

                            • redsquirrel
                              redsquirrel commented
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                              That guy has Phantom parts listed for higher than what you can get them new from EV. Total nonsense pricing.
                          • redsquirrel
                            Classy, stock classy.
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 528
                            • Arkansas

                            #15
                            I’ll never understand why some people refuse to disclose sale prices or remove sale prices from listings after the fact. Is it embarrassing or something?

                            Regardless, congrats on selling the lot.
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                            • BLachance75
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                              There's only so many people that would buy a big lot like this. When it ends up on eBay we'll find out who it was that bought it.
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