Pneumag with Classic Valve

[fierymartel]

Is there a benefit to a pneumatic frame when using a classic valve?

[1snowridr]

Yes, you can make that classic sing. Just recommend a level 10 bolt.

[fierymartel]

Awesome! Ty

[FredMnkyDad10]

I use mine with level 7 and a good hopper. No issues at all and tons of fun.

[rawbutter]

You're not going to be able to shoot it as fast as a pneumag with a better valve, but the trigger will still be faster and lighter than stock. You should have an RT on/off installed in the valve, though.

[fierymartel]

I was gonna use a hybrid on/off

[Criticalhammer]

Pneumag frames allow for more room. No matter what valve is being used.

[fierymartel]

So, i put upon request, a double trigger on an emek for my gals son. I could absolutely rip it, I could always walk a double trigger, question is, can it keep up with my 13 bps fingers?

[LukeAO]

So, i put upon request, a double trigger on an emek for my gals son. I could absolutely rip it, I could always walk a double trigger, question is, can it keep up with my 13 bps fingers?

The T-rex will keep up with whatever you can throw at it, the limits are with the Classic valve and the guy pulling the trigger

[Spider!]

A classic valve needs a minimum of 50 msec to recharge, given the valve/body ports line up and the on/off is an RT (preferably ported).

If your fingers trip over that, it will chuff. Kind of need to stroke it like an old autococker, clean and deliberate.

If your fingers are well calibrated, 13 bps works. My son would do that on my pneumag, but I could not.

[fierymartel]

Well, it just chuffed. Granted 550 bottle as I'm filling the 750 bottle. I could still rapid fire, but when I tried to walk it would not keep up. That is with the classic on/off.

[pneumagger]

Use an RT on off. It requires less force to pull (requiring lower pressure to pneumatics, meaning a lighter trigger and faster mechanical responses).

And use a standard pressure tank. Regulators will react and recharge the fastest if there’s a couple hundred difference in input and output pressure. Mags operate around 400psi dump chamber pressure - I’d want at least a 650psi input.

finally, there’s no electronic buffering or debounce happening… you can’t pull the trigger sloppy or just drum on it. Full pull and full release with deliberate and similar spacing/timing for the pull and release. Walking a pneumag, even a light nicely tuned one, requires a bit of a learning curve.

[fierymartel]

I did wind up putting an xvalve in. You're correct, using the 3 finger scratch produced better results than trying to walk the trigger, until I put the xvalve in. It's breaking in nicely and I can finally walk it without chuffing, although it may be bouncing. I changed out the valve because it seemed as though I was getting some shoot down with the 3 finger scratch.....