Skipping the Inline Regulator

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  • Hobbes
    dodgy
    • Jul 2020
    • 1228
    • NH

    #1

    Skipping the Inline Regulator

    Does anyone run their Autococker without an inline regulator? I'm curious to see if that's common at all and if there's a big performance difference.
  • coyote
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 962

    #2
    It can be done if you springs are tuned to your tanks output pressure.

    Common? More so in the days of CO2.

    The inline reg makes things easier to tune.

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    • iamthelazerviking
      Make Paintballs 690 Again
      • Jul 2020
      • 2708
      • Staunton, VA

      #3
      I thought about trying this too. If you used a low pressure output, like a Ninja SLP, and the right springs/valve then yeah mayybe. Then you have to wonder if the recharge rate of tank reg is enough, will it spike, etc. Inline regs do make things easier.
      Last edited by iamthelazerviking; 06-08-2021, 10:13 PM.
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      • Brokeass_baller
        Pick it up!
        • Jul 2020
        • 1129
        • Ohio

        #4
        Used to run CO2 on autocockers at full bottle pressure. You just have to spring it harder, which means higher LPR pressure, which means a less smooth shot (but still not bad).

        There are no real pros to doing this, but no real cons either.
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        • OpusX
          Still pumpin'
          • Jul 2020
          • 1448
          • KCMO

          #5
          I have an 800psi/CO2 cocker setup with an expansion and no regulator. She is a sewing machine. It is possible if you're willing to play the spring balance game.

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          • Trbo323
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 6358
            • Vancouver WA

            #6
            Originally posted by Hobbes
            Does anyone run their Autococker without an inline regulator? I'm curious to see if that's common at all and if there's a big performance difference.
            You mean like a trilogy....

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            • Hobbes
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              Always forget about those
          • MrKittyCatMeowFace
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 2386
            • Glen Ellyn Illinois

            #7
            Bottomline? .
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            • Jordan
              I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
              • Jul 2020
              • 3476
              • Southern Ontario, Canada

              #8
              I've run a couple Cockers unregged over the years, I greatly prefer one set up with a reg and properly sweetspotted... much more consistent, for me at least.
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              • Magmoormaster
                Only here for the zipline
                • Jul 2020
                • 1294
                • Glendale, AZ

                #9

                This one [obviously] didn't have one. The lower tube was bored out far enough that the front frame screw needed to be teflon taped. I threw green/green madmann springs in it and it shot 290 ish.

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                • Painthappy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 2548
                  • New Boston, NH

                  #10
                  My first and I still own autococker has never had an inline regulator on it. Never had a velocity issue.
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                  • scottieb
                    Member since 2004
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 3948
                    • Lincoln, Nebraska

                    #11
                    No reg on this old bird.

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                    • Jonnydread
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                      ooh I like this
                  • Hobbes
                    dodgy
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1228
                    • NH

                    #12
                    This is the 'cocker in question. I have a set of newer internals but I'm sure I'd need an inline regulator with the springs I have. The goal is to make it a simple workhorse. It would be nice to make the trigger smoother and a tad lighter. The 3-way is the old brass style with cir-clips.

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                    • iamthelazerviking
                      Make Paintballs 690 Again
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 2708
                      • Staunton, VA

                      #13
                      Planning another old school inspired build, wanted to maybe try a stock class sniper, or open class and skip the reg. A 13ci going straight into the vertical ASA and a stock would be fun.
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                      • Hobbes
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                        Is there a vertical ASA for these that will activate a pin valve? I am considering running it that way.

                      • Shaftski
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                        There are vertical ASA extenders that can actuate pin valves and don't have a pin valve on the output.

                      • Hobbes
                        Hobbes commented
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                        As it turns out I have one. There was a Palmer ASA with 1/8 threads on my Defiant that has the pin.
                    • Hobbes
                      dodgy
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1228
                      • NH

                      #14
                      I changed the setup to more what I was thinking. Got rid of the heavy silver vert ASA. Took off the bright red Kapp beavertail as well. Going to test it further without an inline/bottomline regulator.

                      I did try it with a vertical 13ci and L-stock but it felt a bit unwieldy.

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                      • Mr. Hick
                        2 Tooth hillbilly
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 515
                        • Southwestern Stretches of the Shire.

                        #15
                        Boy, that's looking good Hobbes.

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                        • Hobbes
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                          The rust baked into the cocking rod really ties it all together.
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