Any info on "Demon Guns" bodies/builds? (pics inside)

[mueller]

Crossposting from FB as I'm really hoping to turn up some info and struck out there....

Looking for any info on "Demon Guns" - history, body types, anything at all.
See below for pics of 2 examples:
• Yellow fade, ~157K S/N. I suspect at least 1-2 more of this same build/finish in circulation
• Red, ~135K S/N. Missing back block, drilled when owner got it. Haven't seen any more of this cut....

Unverified info:
• Mark Jacobs' name keeps popping up when I search "Demon Guns"
• Someone mentioned A Demon Guns out of Kansas City, Kyle Miller's name mentioned
Questionable/bad info:
• I've seen the yellow fade called "Diablo race gun" but I don't think Diablo has anything to do with this
• Also seen people say "Demonic" but definitely not right, totally different marker.

[OpusX]

Mark Jacobs was the airsmith at Jaegers Paintball in Kansas City during the mid 1990's. He milled his own style of cockers, which at the time he called "Demon Cockers". I know this because I was there at the time [old man yells at cloud]

I have no idea if these are from him after he moved on from Jaegers or if they are even related at all.

This is one Mark Jacobs made originally for nobbie333 in the late 90s (serial#49953) ,and was recovered by myself some time after then sold in 2009.

[KCCockerDoc]

I tried to track down some info on these as well, as far as the KC "Demon Guns". I ran the pro shop they came out of for 5 years and tracked one down in the process. I never got enough solid answers to piece together a good timeline on when and where everything went down. Originally I had heard that Mark Jacob's was involved in the shop at the time the idea was conceived. The original few were milled in the back of the shop on an old, clapped out mill where the repair rack for rentals now sits, and anodized in basically a closet, which is now a stock room. Kyle Miller was involved working at the shop and did some of the anodizing (I now have the anodizing setup that they used). I believe once everyone got pissed at the owner of the field (which is very common), they moved "production" to another space, but I'm not sure it ever became a large operation. I'd love to piece together the full story and timeline though, let me know if I can help.

[KCCockerDoc]

In my time at the shop, I got to restore a few of the pictured original guns and the red/black fade is my personal acquisition. The unmarked ones are claimed as demon guns, but they don't have the insignia. So the question is, are they just early guns that were done on the manual mill? Were the later ones done on a cnc and had the logo added? Or are they two different small shops?

[OpusX]

I can say the blue one I posted was done by hand on that old clapped out mill as you said KCCockerDoc . I remember sitting in the proshop with nobbie333 watching it get cut.

The anno on the other hand was all PK Selective, not the home brew bucket job.

[Myrkul]

I believe this is a Mark Jacobs Demon as well. I found it in a basement near Jaegers while I was getting some ICD parts to repair my B2k. Sadly the owner was adamant that it was not for sale and never would be for sale.

[OpusX]

Yeah I'd agree on that one. Classic horn/hook top rail cuts and it has the same cross diamond hatch milling on the bottom as the blue one I posted.

[KCCockerDoc]

This one is a Demon Gun as well, I worked a tiny bit on it when the owner couldn't get it working, I just didn't have pictures of it anymore.

[Psycho91]

Love the milling on these

[mueller]

Some great markers and info here, thanks y'all!

[k0dmt]

I stumbled into this post after getting back into paintball over the course of the last month or so. My name is Travis Wilson. I was one of three guys that had interest in "demonguns". I will try to be as accurate as I can with my information considering its been over 20 years. Mark Jacobs was the pro shop guy at jaegers when I played my first game, he is the one that fixed my spyder when I put it back together wrong and foolishly lied about doing so. My first job was at Jaegers back in 98 or so, I made friends with Kyle Miller while working there. Mark was making custom guns before the demonguns company was started. In fact our name was Inferno Airsmithing we just had the demonguns logo and webpage that we did business as. We tried to get involved with JJ and lease space with them, but we couldn't ever come to an agreement. We ended up moving our operations into some space a friend had at 4321 east Truman Road, we had a Max NC 15 4th axis cnc machine and a harbor freight Bridgeport clone to do all the milling on, we also had a small grizzly lathe for making bolts and valves and doodads for your hat. We might've made 50 guns total, I don't know really, I barely recall some of the ones I'm seeing photos of. Some of the photos above are from Marks work pre demonguns. Kyle was the business manager/sales guy, mark and I did the machine work. Also, we never used PK select for anno, there was a place in Indiana we gave all our business to. We really were just kids, had no exposure to working in a machine shop, no knowledge of speeds and feeds, I broke A LOT of tooling! The end of demonguns was when we opened the field in excelsior springs, Mark justifiably didn't want to drive to that location nor did he want to work on the sales side of things that could have been done remotely. Kyle and I bought him out and we focused integrating Demonguns into the field "inferno extreme park". I still have a couple of lathes and a small tabletop mill, I played this last weekend with a group of pump players and that's what led me to this post, they said this forum was the watering hole to visit. Feel free to ask any questions at all, I get a kick out of going down memory lane. Kyle still plays, I just got back into it after a 20 year hiatus, and Mark unfortunately has stood firm in his stance about not wanting to even discuss paintball at all. I'll post a picture of a couple of these old demonguns once I figure out this forum. This is my first post.

[mueller]

Super cool history! Welcome aboard and thanks for sharing anything ya got.

[Myrkul]

Holy crap! I didn't realize that you had that much history with Jaegers when we were playing yesterday!

[k0dmt]

In my time at the shop, I got to restore a few of the pictured original guns and the red/black fade is my personal acquisition. The unmarked ones are claimed as demon guns, but they don't have the insignia. So the question is, are they just early guns that were done on the manual mill? Were the later ones done on a cnc and had the logo added? Or are they two different small shops?

I remember searching the parker catalog and just ordering an industrial low pressure regulator that had the correct ports on it for that gun. Thats got to be the ONLY autococker with one of those on it.