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    Rat 3:16 Question

    I got an OG rat valve to replace a damaged stock valve. This is probably a dumb question but should I be using a spring with this? I am assuming a lighter one if so? Honstly, just being lazy and would like shoot for putting it back together once 😂

    #2
    There is a good chance your existing springs will work with the Rat valve if your original valve was a stock 2k setup valve. Put it together and give it a whirl, just don't be surprised if you need to re-spring. The Sniper valve train has a lot of variation in it so what works for one setup will not necessarily give the same performance in a different body. PB parts do not have a lot of tight tolerances or quality consistency so there are no silver bullets on setups other then patience and understanding how to set them up.


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    • nicmauro
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      Great, I will give that a shot first, thanks

    #3
    New they should come with a matching valve/hammer spring....

    But I a pinch stock wgp will work.

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    • superman

      superman

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      Pretty sure they do not ship with the valve by itself.

    • Ecapnation

      Ecapnation

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      Older 3:16's prior to the newest cocker craze did... Not familiar with the new run.

    #4
    You can try your original springs and see how that works and tune to preference from there. The rat usually uses a pretty light valve spring to go for low pressure so a softer spring is probably better for most people. The rat valve has a a wider face on the valve stem so it sees more pressure to keep it closed and may take somewhat stronger main spring force or a heavier hammer to get it up to velocity with a heavier valve spring (although it may be more efficient with the heavier spring). You may have to crank your IVG in a little more with the stock springs but you should be able to get to velocity if you sweetspot the reg to a good pressure.

    I also found the rat valve stem to be shorter than the stock WGP stem so I found a hammer without a dimple on the face worked better for me for lower pressure and less main spring tension. I was able to get the valve up to proper velocity with a stock WGP hammer with dimpled face though with a higher operating pressure and the IVG cranked in a bit more.

    If you don't feel like tinkering you can just buy the shocktech spring kit and a shocketch hammer and know that will all work together.

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