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  • Glovebox Operator
    MCB Member
    • Sep 2025
    • 410
    • New Mexico

    #1

    What to do with an old cocker?

    Hi, I'm new to autocockers and I got this in a big lot of tippmanns and other stuff. I think it's a 1996 that's seen some battles. Aside from most likely needing to replace every seal and putting in correct hardware, I know I'll need to helicoil the body because someone ran in an incorrect frame screw, and replace the bolt because it looks like someone shot rocks through it. So my dilemma is, what route to go with it? Restore to its former vintage glory, update with modern parts, pump conversion, or just keep it around and look at it? I most likely won't take it out to play very much so I'm not looking to put all the money into it. I would like a pump cocker and I have a 2002 pro stock that works well as far as I can tell. Also any help with parts ID would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
  • Buff_phroggie
    Trilogy King?
    • May 2025
    • 322
    • Central Iowa

    #2
    I say just redo the seals and run it as is for now, maybe put a semi decent hpr on it. The biggest thing that all cockers need (IMO) is an on/off asa. Also if you want to use it I would pull the drop foward off, the ergos will be way better

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    • Buff_phroggie
      Buff_phroggie commented
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      I bet it has way too much locktite on it. I bet you will need heat

    • Glovebox Operator
      Glovebox Operator commented
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      Ya, that's probably gotta be the next step if I don't ditch the whole thing and go with a more period correct ASA with no goofy drop forward.

    • Buff_phroggie
      Buff_phroggie commented
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      I always try to keep an on/off handy if i run into a good deal on something, normally a trilogy
  • boomersruckus
    Professional Knucklehead
    • Jul 2023
    • 274
    • Behind you, In the shadows.

    #3
    Turn it into a pump or make it magically turn into an EMEK.
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    • Glovebox Operator
      Glovebox Operator commented
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      I'm hoping some old Spyders and Tippmanns magically turn into an EMEK and that this one gets to live along side my old VM68 and Line SI.
  • Daltech
    Electro<Mech<Pump
    • Feb 2022
    • 872
    • West Coast

    #4
    I’d say turn that into a pump, it being a right feed and having a large back block.

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    • Ecapnation
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 4215
      • South Central Long Island

      #5
      Repair and run it?

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      • Grendel
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 1979
        • Lexington, SC

        #6
        Definitely rebuild and use at a minimum. I would find an original slider frame and original Regulator and rock it like you are in 1995. IT is from 1995-1997 based on SN#. That era is hard to determine exactly when, as there were a lot of them flying the shelf in that SN# range and years in various configurations.


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        • Glovebox Operator
          Glovebox Operator commented
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          That's kinda what I'm leaning towards. Bring it back to a good stock 90s look. Now to find a couple of boxes of failed projects to scrounge up what i need.

        • Grendel
          Grendel commented
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          I'm wondering if there is an airsmith who can or is willing to modify modern pneumatics to give them a stock WGP look from the past. superman
      • Magmoormaster
        Only here for the zipline
        • Jul 2020
        • 1294
        • Glendale, AZ

        #7
        Personally, I'd run it as a cocker. I've always wanted to do a vintage cocker build with one of those untoched super chunky pre97 bodies. The huge backblock is probably a blast to shoot. I'd keep it pretty true to original, since you already have a different cocker. I'd recommend keeping and rebuilding the ram, but replace the LPR and the 3way. LPR can be swapped out either with the later sledgehammer or a palmers rock. The 3way should be swapped out for the later one-piece brass 3way. Keep the vintage look, but they're way faster and easier to work on.

        Pump would be fun too, but mech is so much more fun than pump imo.

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        • Glovebox Operator
          Glovebox Operator commented
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          Sounds like the return to stock-ish is the way to go. I just bought an Empire Sniper last night, so I've got that base covered now. Plus the gilled shrouds just look so cool. Now to find a slide frame, the shroud, and everything else.
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