Why and when did people stop using shrouds on their autocockers?

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  • timetopat
    Rockin and Cockin
    • Jan 2025
    • 50

    #1

    Why and when did people stop using shrouds on their autocockers?

    I know at one point people had shrouds on the front of their autocockers to cover the front pneumatics and then those all seemed to stop being used or go away in the early 2000s. Why is that? Was it considered not needed? Was their concern getting shot in the front of the autococker could break a barb or microline?
  • Junglepeanut
    I would rather be fishing
    • Jul 2020
    • 1467

    #2
    It stopped the day the first autococker upgrade was invented. You left the shroud off so you could show your bling...... if you had a shroud it meant you were all stock under the hood. So even in the early 90s nobody used them

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    • Blackmagic71
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 880
      • Minnesota

      #3
      From personal experience I’ve never had an autococker go down from a shot to the pneumatics. While I think it would certainly be possible, my guess is it just didn’t happen to enough people to be a significant concern.

      Add in that in the early 2000s markers were rapidly trending towards being faster and lighter. Taking off the shroud is an easy and quick way to shed some weight.

      I do love the look of matching shrouds on custom annodized autocockers from the late 90s.

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      • Ecapnation
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 4209
        • South Central Long Island

        #4
        The shroud was just a place to put your hand on the days before vertical regs. As cocker users moved away from vertical tanks and holding the guns like pumps the shrouds were ditched.

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        • Pumps4ever
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          • Dec 2021
          • 510
          • Huntington Beach

          #5
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          • Heavy_D
            SpaceCadet
            • Jun 2024
            • 329
            • Alberta, Canada

            #6
            I sometimes feel like running a neoprene one so I don't have to clean the front end's at the end of the day
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            • MrBarraclough
              MrBarraclough commented
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              Ginger Dynamics sells neoprene shrouds in a bunch of different patterns. Haven't bought one but I have their bottle wraps and hopper cover and like them.
          • JonM
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 1295
            • Landisburg, PA

            #7
            I still have the matching shroud for my Bob Long Cocker, but I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I actually used it. They're bulky and mess up the sight line down the side. I keep it because it's match anodized and original, though it's been a dust collector for decades.
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            • Painthappy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2020
              • 2543
              • New Boston, NH

              #8
              So a lot of what people already said...

              But the earliest autocockers had, well, shitty regs. The first one really wasn't even a regulator. It didn't regulate. It either made pressure, didn't, or blew the hose. It really needed to be adjusted before every game or at least twice a day. So many folks cut a hole in the shroud so you could adjust it without taking it off.

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              That's a sniper 1 that was sent back in for the autococker conversion and has the first "reg" on it.

              Later on as regulators became a thing: Think Jackhammer 2 regs, Palmers, etc. They still were adjustable, but would actually regulate. Folks still cut the hole.

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              But yeah, people did want to show off the fancy stuff underneath and now we had secondary regulators to hold... So off came the shrouds. I think this was also around the same time that WGP started making cheaper and "meh" shrouds that people were more than happy with just taking off and removing. It's not like they all went on easily either.

              I don't know the first gun to not have a shroud regretfully, but I know my first Black Magic did not come with one. Probably the STO's before that didn't have them either.
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              • PBGunny
                PBGunny commented
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                This is correct.
                Also love the Air America expansion chamber.
                My Mini Cocker had one just like that.
            • cougar20th
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 1083
              • Amherst NH

              #9
              I would bet some of the first owners were who first omitted the shrouds.

              Last gun I held with a shroud on was a ans gx3 when my buddy bought one new in the early 2000's. He put the shroud on more put of curiosity to see how it looked. Only to find out after that it fit so tight it scratched the anodizing on his new gun.

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            • Drcemento
              Tiger Stripe Enthusiast
              • Aug 2021
              • 733
              • NorCal

              #10
              I want to love them - I to still get all tingly when i see one of those early smart parts adds. having finally built my dream big block autococker 30 years later, they just feel all wrong to actually play with - you just don't you gun that way, and the added weight just sucks!

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              • DocsMachine
                MCB Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 2699
                • Alaska

                #11
                Personally? Last 'Cocker I built that used a shroud, was this one in 1996:



                I also still have my 'Green Cannon' built around the same time, and with a similarly skeletonised shroud, but really, by '98 or so, hardly anyone used them anymore, at least in my experience.

                As others noted, most of us wanted to show off the "bling" of the color-matched LPR, the chromed 3-way and the nickeled ram, along with the color-matched hoses and milled front block.

                Sliding on an aluminum shroud scratched the LPR and front block- and keep in mind that back then, players were paying upwards of $700 to PK Selective for some really wild anno. Hell, the chrome Quickswitch- the first one Palmer ever did in chrome- on my green gun, cost me $65 back then. That's the equivalent of almost $135 today!

                Today? The only time I see a 'Cocker with a shroud is like Happy's pics: Examples of older, rare collectibles, like the APL 'Cockers and whatnot.

                Then there's always this one from '96, too:





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                • BrickHaus
                  Tactical Spoon Reacquired
                  • Sep 2020
                  • 3396
                  • Minnesota

                  #12
                  I typically take the shroud off right before my front block gets removed and put in a box.

                  Can't pump through a shroud.
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                  • DocsMachine
                    DocsMachine commented
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                    OR... you could be really sneaky, and make some kind of arrangement that fits under that shroud, that... hear me out on this... pumps the gun FOR you! Wouldn't that blow people's minds...



                    Doc.

                  • PBGunny
                    PBGunny commented
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                    Sounds like some kind of dark magic or voodoo.
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