XEMON's phantom double sided feed (3D printed) - Info, how-to and Q&A

[XEMON]

Getting closer ...

First decent spring:


Bust still need to adjust some parameters:


I guess I'm now in the spring making business ...



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[XEMON]

Also, once those are good to my liking (and properly tested) they will be offered to people who already bought one of the CCI feed for the cost of shipping before being available to anyone else.

Thanks to everyone for your patience, support and understanding,
X

[XEMON]

PS#2: the "project list" has been updated with some new things (it's not in a priority order, just the order I wrote it ....)

[Greentorpeedo]

I would like to buy one of your two remaining feeds once you have your spring to your liking.

[XEMON]

Sounds good 👍
I have not bumped the sale thread for that exact reason.

[Greentorpeedo]

Ok PM me when you have it good to go

[XEMON]

Little update, got some more materials and made another guide/tooling, I'm now with the perfect OD 🥳 Need to find tune the frequency and we're gonna be good to go 👍

Hoping to have something out the door in the next few weeks.

[vitaFrui]

I am finally getting back into paintball after a long hiatus... and I now have expendable income and was so excited to get a Apocalypse DualPheed for my phantom, only to find out they were no longer around. The CCI one isn't my cup of tea (I really wanted the dualpheed system and the weighted lever mechanism (no knob to turn/extra step to reload).

Stumbling upon your awesome work here made my day! Can't wait to pick one of these up when the next batch goes out. Thanks for putting in all this effort!

[slomint]

Are you still making/selling these?

[XEMON]

Yes ... but been on pause ... life ...
hoping to finish the ones i have mostly finished soon 😅

[Greentorpeedo]

Feeds for Christmas?

[XEMON]

Im hopping for it, but i dont think its realistic to have the entire batch done.
I may have a few ready so PM me if you want one sooner.

[Greentorpeedo]

I PMed you a few days ago.

[XEMON]

Major, majorly late update 😅

I'm just about done with the next batch!
Let's call it Gen2 ...
Same spring, but the feed tube is a bit longer in the front which should help with overfeed when the it fully loaded.

The current batch has 4 phoenix feed (one is for my personal phantom 😋) and about half dozen regular ones.

Hoping to have them finalized in the next few weeks, as always I'll post here and make a thread in the BST when they're ready.

Also, the search for making The Perfect spring is still in process ... But it will not be ready for this batch.

[NONOBLITUS]

I may need one for the phoenix

[XEMON]

I had 2 members asking me for it (you included) so I made 4 in case I screwed one up 😅
The Phoenix ones have the locking notches on opposite side to make it easier to lock in place for reload.

Worse case scenario, the 4th one will become 2 standard 😁

[bellicose]

What's the Phoenix feed?

[XEMON]

Here is my build thread:

https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/paintball-news-aa/the-armory/cci/310237-the-birth-of-a-unicorn-or-the-rise-of-the-phoenix-creation-of-a-custom-phoenix

[NONOBLITUS]

Phoenix feed is for one of these. Yup mine

[NONOBLITUS]

No unfortunately they do not. It was made by a company called Gearhead paintball

[XEMON]

The person who made them sold the last 2 he had on hand to NONOBLITUS and I. He also just sold his personal phoenix.
Took me ~15 years to get one ... I started a 3D printed kit before I got my hand on mine, might actually finish that project one day ...

[Jack]

Dang! How many shots off a 12 gram on this beast?

[XEMON]

Ok, so the first testing with what im now calling Gen2 are going well; still need a few tweaks before its read.
For everyone who already have a Gen1, I have a few ideas on "retrofit kit". Once Gen2 is up and running, ill implement them.

[XEMON]

Gen 2 feed block is out and doesn't make much of a difference, but the new flippy gate totally solve the jam on full spring load.

So I'll move forward with the current batch of Gen2.

For everyone who currently have a Gen1, the kit will likely including a new gate, spring and barrel clamp/front cap. I still need to confirm and design a few things. I will post the details here when they're ready.

[XEMON]

And here is the final version of the double gate:

And installed:


Needs a bit more testing.
The gate needs a few more tweaks ... The last ball tend to jam preventing the rear to load ...

[bellicose]

Since you have experience with it, what type of inserts do you use, heat set or tap in? Can you self tap right into the 3d print?

[XEMON]

I have used both ,,, also force the thread straight into the 3D print ...
Here is my experience with the 3 techniques:
- Force the thread straight into the print: woks surprisingly well quick and easy
- tap teh plastic: by far the worse, remove too much material IMO
- heat set inserts: by far teh best, but more expensive. can screw and un-screw at will, and get better pull force than threaded directly into teh plastic because of the larger OD. But its easy to screw up ... too hot and you melt everything and set them sideway. You need adjustable soldering iron and some od crap tip as the plastic is gonna contaminate the tip and make them unusable for proper soldering.

Hope this helps 😁

[XEMON]

Big update everyone!
I finally have a the updated gate i like (after way way too many test)
It feed well and the last ball doesn't get stuck in there!.
Also, the feed are updated to help prevent double feed when fully loaded.

So this is officially Gen2 🥳

If this change works the way im expecting it to, i will make an upgrade kit for people who already have a feed.


Im assembling the feed, hoping to have them ready to go sometime next week.

Also, there *may* be an time opportunity for a few double feed (phoenix) feed.
I am not going to make extras of these, so shoot me a PM if you're interested.

[XEMON]

Long time without update ... had a few things getting in the way (life 😒) but im back at it 👍

I found a better way to smooth out the carbon fiber, so ill go back through all the tube one more time (I didn't like the roughness after sanding them with sandpaper).
Also, calling it gen 2 motivated me to improve the follower too ...
Everything is finally where I want it and I feel comfortable to re-release the feeds.

So, Gen2 update:
- Longer body and spring
- New gate design
- New follower

there will be an "upgrade kit" to bring all Gen1 to Gen 1.5. I will get the extension modeled after I'm done with the first batch of Gen2
It will include:
- 3D printed tube extension / barrel clamp
- Longer spring
- New gate
- New follower