Just getting in to stock class and I like the looks and practicality of VSC Phantoms with the rear gauge. I emailed Air Soldier to see if they plan on doing a restock or one off but in the meantime was wondering if anyone knows of a shop that has or individual that wants to sell a gauge ready valve body. Thanks !
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ASP Have Blue may be still taking that works. It's a side gig but, steady pace. Bout the time, you forget(maybe sooner😋) you sent it off to get drilled/threaded. I'll have a few bodies to get a detents mod. 😉Comment
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I have a crappy lathe in my garage, and access to a better one, and could put gauge threads in it. What part of Texas are you in?
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Are you being facetious? Genuine question, I’ve never had a rear facing gauge or used one.Originally posted by SignOfZeta
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I don’t find them Useful. By the time the gage drops you should have already changed out. You can visually see the paint slow down when it’s time to change out. You will pick up the feel with a lil practice. I have never looked at one outside the staging area to see if I had a 12g charged in a benched marker.
Count shots / tubes it’s part of the Art.
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Your phantom is gloss black I bet you could trade someone for a gaged one pretty easily. Post up a WTT. -
I'm most definitely in the "feel" camp on when to change 12ies. I don't know if it's the play environment I'm in (usually open play with up to 50v50) or just adapting over the years, but I'm usually paying attention to what's going on in the game. Maybe it's just having played with the same Phantom for years, but I can usually feel/see/hear a shot that, while useable, is below a full strength shot and know I've got 1 or 2 decent shots if I'm in a pinch or it's time to change.
With a little practice, changing a 12gram is pretty quick. I can only remember 1 specific time it caused me to get shot, and that's because a piece of shell wedged itself between the bucket and 12ie and I couldn't get it out while 2 guys decided to run me down (which is not a fight I would have won anyways, just bummed I couldn't take one with me).
gogi19, I should have either a gauged valve body, or one with at least the hole for it already if you'd like to swap.
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While having a gauge is is far from a necessity and I do not have one on all of my markers. I do find them handy in the staging area to help me remember where I stand in relationship to number of shots left after last game ended. I sort of use it as a go/no-go for changing cartridge before the next game. Most of the time I am not stingy with my CO2 cartridges and when in doubt just opt to change before the next game but if I have a gauge and it looks pretty topped off I will give that cartridge another 10 rds before changeout. Not a perfect system but it works for me. I drill and tap my own valves it it pretty easy to do with a simple center punch, drill press and appropriate drills for an 1/8th NPT tap.
"When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it." - Theodore Roosevelt
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+1 gauge body valve looks good.
My gauge body phantoms seem to have better efficiency than non-gauged phantoms.Comment
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We pushed the gas a little on the drill press, not just for a gauge port - the valve chamber is enlarged similar to a back bottle valve body, there was an old MCB thread on the BB valve having the best efficiency of the bunch - here is a photo of my valve:
https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/p...109#post554109
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