Does the 09 Electra “need” a regulator?

[Tinman74]

I have a problematic stock reg on an 09 Electra, seems to leak even with new orings. I rebuilt the rest of the marker and when I run air directly into the vertical asa it seals and cycles fine. The valve looks just like any other blowback valve and the velocity adjust by the spring so??? Do I need the reg? Or can I throw an expansion chamber on this and call it a day?

[JeeperCreeper]

I would think you don't need it, but if you take it off you might need a spring kit to adjust your velocity.

[BrickHaus]

I think it does. Im no expert but i think an 09 electra is a low pressure gun. It operates at 300 psi. Id think the noid would die m, but again, no expert.

[Tinman74]

The solenoid trips a sear. It’s shouldn’t be affected by air pressure. As far as the spring goes, that actually makes sense to me. I was hoping someone had done this already.

[BrickHaus]

I wasnt sure if an electra was still a blowback,in 09, or a balanced valve striker like a vs series is. Sounds like a stbb. Then disregard my last transmission. If its the latter then it would wreck the noid. I guess I figured the electra would be a striker as it was kinda a premium marker of the line up feom what I recall. But in 09, I wasnt interested in ANY new markers. Let alone a new spyder, so I wouldnt know.

[Tinman74]

No worries! I’m a piranha guy, although they’re similar in most ways I’m just not up on spyders “high end” guns

[Chappy]

It really depends on where the valve sweet spots, which I can’t remember at all for these guns. But if it is designed for lower pressure then it can be problematic and even dangerous. Basically if the valve sweetpsots at less then 800psi then you will gain velocity at the end of the tank when the pressure starts to drop.

[Tinman74]

Well that sucks! I would prefer not investing in a fancy reg. I guess I’ll try to solve the mystery leak

[Tinman74]

I’m using a #8 oring on the bottom of the brass fitting that the reg piston passes through. Unfortunately its a buna not the clear tank oring style. All the other orings are per the diagram. Any thoughts on why this thing keeps leaking out the side of the reg are appreciated.

[JeeperCreeper]

If you keep an eye on the bst section, you could probably find a decent reg for cheap here

[Law]

I had one of those for a while and can confirm it doesn’t need it, but you would have to get a spring kit in it to not use one, and you would probably be unhappy with how it shot at that point.

[Tarsun2]

iirc they dont use a balanced valve.
they are a great marker though. IMHO they are the single best marker spyder ever made.
ive seen they keep up with much higher end markers (mainly due to the players talent) but none the less.

[pghp8ntballer]

I wasnt sure if an electra was still a blowback,in 09, or a balanced valve striker like a vs series is. Sounds like a stbb. Then disregard my last transmission. If its the latter then it would wreck the noid. I guess I figured the electra would be a striker as it was kinda a premium marker of the line up feom what I recall. But in 09, I wasnt interested in ANY new markers. Let alone a new spyder, so I wouldnt know.

Just for additional info:

Even if it was a balanced valve like a VS there would be no noid damage. All e-spyders are sear trippers. The balanced valve needs a reg because it operates at a lower pressure.

Only the EM-1 and Raven Primal used solenoids that cycled air pressure.

[Tinman74]

Thanks for the info guys. I have a ton of piranha springs, might keep my eye out for a better reg anyway.

[JeeperCreeper]

Just remember most regs are imperial threads, and Spyders are metric. You will need an adapter for it to work together

[Tinman74]

And this is is one of the reasons I’ve always preferred Piranhas! What a pain