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  • Ashur
    Newbie
    • Jul 2021
    • 16

    #1

    VS series cup seal

    Does anyone know of where one can find new cup seals for the low pressure valves in the VS series guns? Looking around online has returned depressingly little.
  • grendal50
    Bunker Buster
    • Jul 2020
    • 198
    • Clinton, Ma

    #2
    I would also like to know, also are the valves rebuildable? I have one that doesn't leak, but sticks open every couple of shots.

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    • Toestr
      Certified Post Whore
      • Jul 2020
      • 2871
      • Poland, Onterrible

      #3
      I also must know these things.

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      • Ashur
        Newbie
        • Jul 2021
        • 16

        #4
        A small update, I reached out to paintball solutions to see if they had any valves or valve parts (i.e. cupseals) kicking around and was told no. They had one VS series laying around, but apparently recently moved and they don't know where it went. So it looks like the only source of parts will be other guns...

        Also, yes the valves are rebuild-able. They can be a bitch to open because they are loctited together, but you unscrew the two halves of the valve body, the cup seal unscrews from the valve stem and you've basically done it. There is one internal oring and a smaller oring where the cupseal screws onto the valve stem.

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        • grendal50
          grendal50 commented
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          That's good to know, Thanks! I was afraid to open mine up as it's the only one I had to play with. Iisports.com had some but I waited too long to grab one or two and they're all gone.
      • scottieb
        Member since 2004
        • Jul 2020
        • 3948
        • Lincoln, Nebraska

        #5
        I should start a business making and selling cup seals for various markers. There's probably a small market for such an endeavor.
        FEEDBACK - https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...k-for-scottieb

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        • Macdave06
          Tinkerer
          • Jul 2020
          • 1363
          • Vacaville, CA

          #6
          Originally posted by scottieb
          I should start a business making and selling cup seals for various markers. There's probably a small market for such an endeavor.
          Cup seals and reg seats.

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          • punkncat
            The piggy went to market
            • Jul 2020
            • 798

            #7
            I honestly have to say that the legendary great that the Spyder (and similar) STBB were fills me with a level of surprise and sadness that something as simple as a cup seal is no longer available. I am making the assumption that the cup seal didn't significantly change over the years.

            At one time in recent history I thought someone was carrying a brass cup seal replacement with a flat washer type sealing surface that went into it. I was thinking it was Palmers, but their site displays no results for it.

            Of note, Action Village is showing both a cup seal with the valve shaft as well as the screw on plastic end. It lists it as for "MR1", but as above I was assuming they are the same anyway.
            Kingman Spyder Cup Seal Assembly (actionvillage.com)

            Kingman Spyder MR1 Cup Seal (ITP012) (actionvillage.com)

            (edit) that second linked part is showing exactly the same picture for the Eko model (edit)
            feedback

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            • BenoitOWN
              BenoitOWN commented
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              Black magic cup seal
          • scottieb
            Member since 2004
            • Jul 2020
            • 3948
            • Lincoln, Nebraska

            #8
            Does anyone have pics of the VS valve disassembled including pics of the cup seal?
            FEEDBACK - https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...k-for-scottieb

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            • Tarsun2
              Certified Post Whore
              • Jul 2020
              • 1015

              #9
              im sure i can get some this weekend.

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              • scottieb
                scottieb commented
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                Awesome. Thank you!
            • Tarsun2
              Certified Post Whore
              • Jul 2020
              • 1015

              #10
              i have a spare vs valve assy is someone was serious about milling a new one; id ship it to them.

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              • Ashur
                Newbie
                • Jul 2021
                • 16

                #11
                Got an MR1 cup seal since they aren't all that expensive and it is definitely a no-go. VS cup seal is taller so the shorter M1 cup seal causes misalignment of the valve stem. Worth a shot though.

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                • Tarsun2
                  Certified Post Whore
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1015

                  #12
                  yeah, everything about them is different.
                  let me set a reminder in my phone.
                  ill bring it to work and take it apart.

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                  • Tarsun2
                    Certified Post Whore
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1015

                    #13
                    ok, got it here on my desk.
                    what measurements do we all need?

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                    • Ashur
                      Ashur commented
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                      Get this man your requests people!
                  • Tarsun2
                    Certified Post Whore
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1015

                    #14
                    i have it here all disassembled. there is no way someone is making this. it has 6 different diameters, 2 o-ring seats, a threaded section, and a hole going down the length meeting up with a small port drilled through the side.

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                    • Tarsun2
                      Certified Post Whore
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1015

                      #15
                      reading back, the cup seal looks like a standard cup seal.
                      ill grab a stock one this week and tank some measurements. If thats all you need, it might be an easy solution.
                      the valve pin on the other hand... i wouldnt even know where to start. id probably reach out to DOC to see how its made.

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