Rifled freak XL insert?

[Trbo323]

Does it exist? I was looking around at barrels and saw the pwr barrel has a rifled back built for FSR but thought for a moment. I have a freak XL, wonder if I can just get an insert instead of an all new barrel.

If it doesn't exist, anyone know how hard it would be to make one? I'm kind of assuming hard but idk

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[BrendanB]

i haven't seen one.

but you can probably “grind” off the back behind the threads of a XL barrel back to make it PWR ready. Im sure somebody does that conversion.

[scottieb]

I've not seen one. I imagine rifling would make the insert quite thin.

[Ecapnation]

While not XL.... I have turned down an armson barrel into a freak insert with some interesting outcomes

[superman]

I am not sure what the OD of the PWR insert is off the top of my head, but that is where i would start for sure.
If it is just cutting down a PWR insert, it wouldn't be that difficult. If you had to turn the outside down that starts to get into the ehhh realm.

[Trbo323]

I am not sure what the OD of the PWR insert is off the top of my head, but that is where i would start for sure.
If it is just cutting down a PWR insert, it wouldn't be that difficult. If you had to turn the outside down that starts to get into the ehhh realm.

That's not a bad thought.

Anyone have a pwr insert they can measure for me?

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[superman]

I can, just not home.

[Tracker]

i feel like any inserts like that would be just as likely to spin in the sleeve...

[Trbo323]

i haven't seen one.

but you can probably “grind” off the back behind the threads of a XL barrel back to make it PWR ready. Im sure somebody does that conversion.

That might work but I'm not sacrificing my barrel to do it. This is the same barrel I use on everything else

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[Trbo323]

i feel like any inserts like that would be just as likely to spin in the sleeve...

At least my DW X8 I wouldn't worry about it. They are in there pretty good.

Does the pwr have any way to prevent it from turning?

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[superman]

friction from the orings keeps it from spinning.

[superman]

Can't you just buy the pwr back and use that with the rifled insert?

[Trbo323]

Can't you just buy the pwr back and use that with the rifled insert?

I have a dw x8. I'd need the whole pwr barrel just to run that insert.

I'd prefer to just have an insert for the x8 so I don't need a whole separate barrel system for one marker

Still looking at options, I don't have the money for anything right now anyway but the hammerhead barrel is still on the table as well

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[heyzeus]

Rifled pwr inserts actually thread into a pwr back. Not all pwr backs can accept them. My PE S63 back is threaded to take a rifled insert, my DYE FC-i back is not.

[Cdn_Cuda]

Good info!

[superman]

Pwr inserts are 0.008” larger than xl inserts as well as longer.

[Buff_phroggie]

Yep! I discovered this when I got my crbn barrels mixed up. I have one that takes the pwr inserts, one cocker thread that takes XL, and one luxe thread that takes XL. The tip and back will thread together, but inserts don't fit the same. I have considdered getting a custom bit made so I could possibly run a nano tip on a luxe back

[Trbo323]

Pwr inserts are 0.008” larger than xl inserts as well as longer.

Hmmmmm. So close. I'm assuming that would be basically impossible to turn down?

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[superman]

That is doable. I wouldn’t want to start with a $75 insert though. lol.

[Frmrspec]

i feel like any inserts like that would be just as likely to spin in the sleeve...

depends.. standard rifling doesn’t impart a whole ton of spin. nemesis splines impart a shit ton.. I’ve turned down barrels into inserts, but your lathe needs to be pretty dialed.. between centers and an expanding insert inside the ends of the barrel works well