13 ci air expectations.

[Chemical-x.....ahain]

I know every setup is different as are springs, valves, regs, bolts and pressure. But what its a realistic expectation on a 13 ci and what are you using?

[Cyberpyr8]

13's are tough unless you are shooting pump or only want to carry 150-200 shots total. I would say expect 150 shots and any more is a bonus. I prefer the 17 and 36's since they can shoot a lot more than you probably need if you're buying a small tank.

[Chemical-x.....ahain]

13's are tough unless you are shooting pump or only want to carry 150-200 shots total. I would say expect 150 shots and any more is a bonus. I prefer the 17 and 36's since they can shoot a lot more than you probably need if you're buying a small tank.

for this project the 13 is most suitable in terms of size both the length and width of the bottle. Can I ask what guts your using and what body youve got them in?

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My current setup is an AKA valve, custom bolt, light/light spring set, heavy hammer and a stabilizer. only achieving 20 or so shots not at velocity so ive got some major tuning to do.

[Cyberpyr8]

I gave it away as a donation, but it was a Ninja Pro V2 reg running with the full stack. I used it for my Phantom originally then I also used it occasionally on my Emek. I donated it with a Tippmann Stormer. Since it is magfed I figured it was a decent fit for that setup. It would shoot about a hopper (Ctrl1) full on the Emek. So probably close to 200 shots. The Phantom I don't know, it would shoot more than I carried! The Tippmann it was shooting more like 150 or so. This is it (vinyl wrapped) on my Phantom.

[nak81783]

Since 13/3s are relatively inexpensive and don’t need hydro, I just keep extras outside the net and change them between games. Is that an option for you?

[Chemical-x.....ahain]

Both yes and no.

I do have extras and a redesign im sure is in the future but for the immediate I really want to get my shot count up along with velocity. Im around 250/245 for 20 or so shots, running a light/light spring combo on a pre 2k tornado with heavy hammer and regged with a stabilizer

im not opposed to extra tanks or even carrying an extra.

[Jonnydread]

13/3k are pretty tiny, I would say 150 is gonna be the consistent top range across the board with different paint, weather, etc.

Edit: the only setup I regularly use a 13 on is my Tigershark and I usually refill after 100 shots, but there’s usually 1000ish psi left. Keep in mind Nelson valve markers are pretty efficient so YMMV. An underbore is your friend if you’re trying to efficiency max

[Melrosejedi]

200-225 is what I would get with my karni. Running around 225 psi.

[Chuck E Ducky]

150 -200 depending on efficiency and how well it’s tuned. Depends on how your filling to the more heat the compressor puts out the closer you will get to that 150. But with a CCM sniper or a CCI Phantom with a reasonable bore match 200 shots easy on a hot fill.

My favorite size was the 18ci 3k tanks. They are the same length as a standard 68ci CF tank but still 2” around. Then they came out with the Carbon fiber 4500 version of them that are even better but require re hydro.