eNMEy valves no longer being made

[lhamilton1807]

GoG is looking for an HE valve to sell to me, but they confirmed they no longer make the HE valve. Whatever is floating around is what’s available.

[The Hobbit]

That is unfortunate for the longevity of the marker.

[mmblake]

That is unfortunate for the longevity of the marker.

thats anything smartParts. you need to invest big with parts when you by guns from them just to have a working gun after two years.

[lhamilton1807]

I’m no fan of SP/GoG business practices but this point is hardly a sin only the Gardner brothers are guilty of. Grips, eyes, boards, thru-grip regulators, etc are now all proprietary and often limited to a single generation of a marker.

If I do manage to get a valve from them, I’ll keep my old valve in my spares just in case.

[tyronejk]

Luckily with pneumatic mech guns like these, you can use industrial valves like SMAV3 that will likely be available forever.

[Myrkul]

SMAV3 is way more crisp. The stock eNMEy triggers always felt kinda spongy to me and I didn't care for them.

[lhamilton1807]

Which eNMEy valve are you comparing the smav3 to? There was the original, the original with metal reinforcement, and the HE. The last was supposed to be a great feeling trigger valve.

[Toestr]

I don't know how much the HE valve is meant to improve the trigger pull as much as allow the use of a qev (snappier, more efficient shot) and maintain the low force bolt.

[fullofpaint]

On a similar note, I noticed the other day CP no longer lists their direct mount ASA's and seems like they're sold out everywhere too.

[lhamilton1807]

Yeah I ran into that issue, too. Easy to find dovetail micro drops, but dovetail on/off ASAs are going to be tough to find. Maybe there’s a niche market for a MCB machinist?

[Psycho91]

Damn glad someone found this out before i start building the ones I was gonna build, ugh guess is time to just get an emek, all the cool old school guns are dying and becoming paper weights

[Toestr]

For what it's worth, I don't think the lack of new valves will be an issue for at least a decade. They're pretty robust. And the seal in the valve would be easy enough to recreate and replace if need be.

[lhamilton1807]

I have a gen 1.5 valve and they’re supposed to be pretty bullet proof, but wanted an HE valve because they’re supposed to be much shorter pull & better on air. Would definitely be nice to have the upgrade.

[Psycho91]

Might have to scoop a couple up while they are still around, isn't their like a rubber disk or something in the valves that dry rots over time

[cougar20th]

I’m no fan of SP/GoG business practices but this point is hardly a sin only the Gardner brothers are guilty of. Grips, eyes, boards, thru-grip regulators, etc are now all proprietary and often limited to a single generation of a marker.

If I do manage to get a valve from them, I’ll keep my old valve in my spares just in case.

You are correct. The term is planned obsolescence. If the parts aren't avaliable then you will buy another. They hope it's one of theirs.

[lhamilton1807]

Finally heard back - they couldn’t find any HE valves, but will let me know if they find any. Looks like it’s SMAV3 or bust.

[Trbo323]

thats anything smartParts. you need to invest big with parts when you by guns from them just to have a working gun after two years.

You are correct. The term is planned obsolescence. If the parts aren't avaliable then you will buy another. They hope it's one of theirs.

What gog did though went beyond planned obsolescence. A plastic solenoid manifold? I mean come on, who ever thought that would work even medium term?

The sp1 stock board and blackheart board being literally the same board but the stock one having epoxy put into it's programming connection meant instead of maybe paying sp for a software unlock code you had to buy the exact same board again if you wanted the blackheart features

The outright lies just to sell markers

I'm glad they are dying, honestly this is what should have happened decades ago if they never conned their way into the e marker patent. They never should have gotten any money to keep sp afloat that was earned from the hard work of others and their products should have had to compete on a more level playing field.

/Rant

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[lhamilton1807]

Gog is dying, but Shocker and DLX are doing well enough it seems. It’s a bummer their Ion line seems to be ending. They’re fun markers to mod

as for plastic solenoid covers, the Dye Rize noids have had plastic covers that don’t have the same cracking issues, and they’ve been used since 2011. Gog probably cheaped out on their materials choices like they did with the gloss plastic eXTCy and eNMEy bodies - they just eventually crumbled. Other plastic bodies do fine - anything that’s GRN anyway.

[Toestr]

Is there an issue with the metal reinforced housing or the eNEMy cracking? Even the original all plastic plastic valve for the eNEMy feel leaps and bounds better then the SP1 solenoid housing.

[lhamilton1807]

There’s nothing functionally wrong w the v1.5 (“HD”) valve and there’s no indication it’ll fail any time soon.

For long scenario games the efficiency of the HE valve would be really nice to have and a crisper trigger pull with less room for short stroking are QoL upgrades I had hoped to have in the $35 valve upgrade.

[Trbo323]

as for plastic solenoid covers, the Dye Rize noids have had plastic covers that don't have the same cracking issues, and they've been used since 2011. Gog probably cheaped out on their materials choices like they did with the gloss plastic eXTCy and eNMEy bodies - they just eventually crumbled. Other plastic bodies do fine - anything that's GRN anyway.

Yes dye made a better plastic manifold, PE had been doing it for years at this point. they also had the failings of the gog one to work from. It's not that it's plastic, it's that it's a poor design

Don't give dye too much credit though, they also really screwed up the tolerances on the 2011 rail(not sure if this transferred over to the rize or not) in that you have to have the exact material AND durometer just for it to have a chance at working right.

Have a leak at the field? Field only has buna? Too bad, your day is done

In a more upper end marker I don't really have a problem with that kind of specific needs but in something that's marketed towards new players? No

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