Broken Paint Inside of Gun (The Hard Way)

[SignOfZeta]

I had a great time with my Sterling at Monster Game. I was using that HK Army “Vandal” Level 4 stuff and a 0.687 Lapco Bigshot Spyder barrel No tape, freaks, barrel sizers or wedgits, one roll out out of 3/4 of a case. Zero breaks. A perfect day, really. I love this gun.

OK, one break…delivered via the opposite team…broke on the feed neck and shot goo directly into the gun in the process. I didn’t fire after taking this hit. This is exactly how it landed. It just *injected* that ish. There was paint on top of the bolt, up inside the feed, inside the hopper, on all the paint in that area. It was worse than breaking paint inside the gun yourself because usually most of that is ahead of the bolt and cleans up easy. It looks like it got hit from the side but it wasn’t. The paint basically rode up the barrel and broke on the feed.

Now I’m suddenly paying attention to that little plastic piece that is on vert feed Phantoms and noticing how it prevents this exact issue. Mike was more concerned with stuff getting into guns than most manufacturers. Other than the obvious (tape!) what could be done to obscure that port and still look classy? Historically what have manufacturers (other than CCI) done?

[flyweightnate]

I think the best solution would be a wider base for the feedneck that wraps down the body. A lot of people see that gap as a feature, though, so you can check the stack and ensure there's still paint... less relevant for OC play.

Was the paint big enough to "stick" in the 687, or do you just have a good cadence and tend to shoot uphill?

[TencenT]

If I am not mistaken that is the paint Summerlin Paintball uses here in Vegas and imo it really sucks. It rolls out a 679 without issue. Even with the barrel detents from redleader, it rolls out. I get this is just the cost of doing business with closed bolt markers in modern paintball but what really ticks me off is how often I have chest shot someone and it doesn't #$%#$% break. It may be "different" as the box I have is level 4 "supreme" but if they put out this quality of paint, I don't care if they also make good paint because they sold me this junk. </rant> I deeply miss the days of marbelizer that actually fit in standard inserts and was generally consistent and most importantly, it breaks when hit someone with it. "Back in my day" TM

[DocsMachine]

I was reffing a game many years ago, and it came down to the last two players, in a wooded field. A finally hit B and the game ended.

Back at the tables, we discovered that A had scored two hits on B- one on an elbow or whatever, which is what called the game. The other Hathcock'ed straight down the barrel of B's 'Cocker, and blew up the ball in the chamber bad enough to drive paint back down into the valve.

There wasn't a drop of paint anywhere in the barrel, save for the last 2" of the breech end. The ball went straight down the bore and didn't break 'til it hit the chambered ball.

Doc.

[SignOfZeta]

I think the best solution would be a wider base for the feedneck that wraps down the body. A lot of people see that gap as a feature, though, so you can check the stack and ensure there's still paint... less relevant for OC play.

Was the paint big enough to "stick" in the 687, or do you just have a good cadence and tend to shoot uphill?

The paint actually stuck in the barrel, barely. It was pretty high quality very round stuff with almost no seam. It also broke easy. “Field paint only” is a crime against the sport, really. The reason good paint is so hard to find is because there’s almost no place to sell it.

[TencenT]

This.. exactly this.