Sl68ii gen 1 and 2 modifications to reach 290# velocity

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  • Boomboom
    Brass is the way
    • Dec 2024
    • 17

    #1

    Sl68ii gen 1 and 2 modifications to reach 290# velocity

    I have spent the better part of a decade modding and working on sl68ii's.
    the age old question was how do I get the velocity up on it? Ive found the procedure for doing so. Mind you I'm doing this with hand tools and have no special equipment. So you can update the procedure to whatever tooling you have. Here goes.

    Step 1. Use a carbide burr bit for a Dremel and file down the hump on the plug on top of the body above the valve chamber so it's flat to accurately center punch on the pin.

    Step 2. Use a 3/32 drill bit and go extra slow and drill down the center of the plug. let the weight of the drill take it down or if you go too fast the bit will go off course. You're going to need some good steel drill bits to make it through. Once that's piloted out proceed to step up one size at a time to a 13/64 drill bit. When drilling down into the grip go a little at a time. There's no hurry in connecting the two holes. You can't take it back. I had to braze a hole shut due to rushing. Make sure to keep clearing the shavings. I noticed while drilling this aluminum it plugs up the bits really easy and throws the bits off course.

    Step 3. Begin drilling the hole through the grip towards the valve chamber. Start with a 1/8th inch drill bit and move up every step to 13/64, same procedure. Drill a little at a time and clear the shavings. Eventually you'll reach your hole through the top. If you go too far too fast you'll drill right through the grip. I use a curved diamond file to clean up the holes inside the valve chamber so it doesn't cut o-rings

    Step 4. Tap the upper valve chamber hole with a 1/4-20 tap and go a little at a time clearing the chips out of the hole. It keeps from chewing up the threads. When tapping the hole stop just before the bottom of the hole. Install a 1/4-20 set screw and use red loctite (the devil's anus) to seal the threads. It never needs to come back out. I've also used a 2 part high psi epoxy.

    Step 5. use a pointed carbide burr to port out the holes on the valve stem. Don't go too far or the valve stem will snap from the hammer hitting it. It can be done with the valve cup seals left on being careful. I just tried finding cup seals and they are out of stock everywhere.

    Step 6. I use a 1/4 inch lock washer the daimeter of the valve stem and twist it flat so it's not offset. install it on the side the hammer hits to open up the valve more and increase output. The most I've ever needed was one. But you can play around for different results. Also if you have a 3d printer you could make different size shims to increase of decrease airflow.

    no shims or anything required behind any of the springs.
    I polish up all of the internals with 6000 grit sand paper with oil on it. After cleaning the internals I polish inside of the gun and all of the internals with a hoppes wax polish rag and that really smoothes out all of the little scratches and makes everything real buttery. Those wax rags work wonders on everything inside and out and makes things shine.

    Yesterday I modded eight of them and was able to achieve between 300- 345 with multiple shots on every one of them with a normal output tank.
    I had a couple that chronoed low and figured out depending on the barrel you have on there the stock front bolt o-ring will be too small and you'll lose 20-30 fps with that o-ring not fitting tight in the barrel. Once i found one that was tight it went up over 300.

    i haven't shared this cause at one point in life I wanted to be the guy to do it for people. I'm older and run my own business now and have decided to share this so everyone that likes sl68's can enjoy what me and everyone on my team has had for years. Here you go guys. I hope the instructions are clear enough. If you have any questions ask. I don't quite know how to navigate this site yet and do captions with pictures so bear with me. But I will upload pics as well.
  • Boomboom
    Brass is the way
    • Dec 2024
    • 17

    #2
    The difference in the holes after I port out the valve stem

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    • Cal440
      Cal440 commented
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      Great write up, I have a 1 and 2 myself hope to attempt these mods. Extra thanks for the pictures.
  • DocsMachine
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 2699
    • Alaska

    #3
    It's worth noting that when I was testing my Phantom-barrel conversion, I saw an easy 20-35 FPS jump between the stock barrel (about .691") and a .678" Freak insert.

    I have a Phantom Freak XL barrel and .676" insert on the way- the best paint I have on hand still just barely falls through the .678".

    Doc.
    Doc's Machine & Airsmith Services: Creating the Strange and Wonderful since 1998!
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    • Boomboom
      Boomboom commented
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      Very true. Paint size and barrel bore will be a big factor. I chronoed one with a tight bore palmers barrel and it shot 345. All of my j and j brass barrels chronoed 300-320 with the velocity adjuster maxed out. Once i have the tooling im going to attempt making a titanium barrel for my sl with a .670 bore
  • Chuck E Ducky
    Ragnastock Enforcer
    • Jul 2020
    • 6114
    • NY

    #4
    Deadly winds use to make barrels for them if you asked out of one of there existing barrels. Just took the threads off. I had one as some point then I had a printed sleeve for the handle that slip fit into it. Feeding it 825-850psi input. It shot 300-280FPS easy with some adjustments up or down.

    I cut a broken feed neck off one patched it and opened the side hole up for hand loading First Strikes. Not sure what happened to that one but it was a really cool build. I lost the build thread to the Great Reset.

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    • Boomboom
      Boomboom commented
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      I'm going to try and make some titanium barrels for them once I get the tooling for it. I just love them over all. They're the ak of paintball guns. They never die.
  • infamoussmiley
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    • Jul 2020
    • 629

    #5
    Hello!

    This is a great modification for the SL68s. My main question is where do I find replacement powertubes and cup seals? We need a lot of these parts for our field fleet of 150+ SL 68 Ones and Twos. I was thinking of having some made eventually...

    Kind regards,

    Smiley

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    • Boomboom
      Boomboom commented
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      https://pbsports.com/products/tippma...7e3d828f&_ss=r

      Check these guys out. Call them and make sure they're in stock. Are all of your power tubes damaged? They never usually suffer any damage.
      The cup seals I am on a quest for. I have a couple good leads. I'm seeing where those go. Otherwise if I had enough people to make a large order I was going to call tippmann and tippmann parts and see if they can do another run of them of supply me with the info wether they are made in house or an outside source. I'm also researching what material they are made of and going to try and make them myself.
  • Boomboom
    Brass is the way
    • Dec 2024
    • 17

    #6
    If you can't locate power tubes talk to docs machine. He could probably make them

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    • Chuck E Ducky
      Chuck E Ducky commented
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      Probably make cup seals too

    • Boomboom
      Boomboom commented
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      From what I've found out is that they were possibly injection molded. But that isn't going to stop me from trying to make them
  • DocsMachine
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 2699
    • Alaska

    #7
    I was going to say... I have five SLs on the table right now, as soon as I start the machining, I'll take a look at the seals. Material's easy enough, and I could pop 'em out by the bushel in the turning center.

    Power tubes would be a bit more involved, but those are certainly possible too.

    I'm in kind of "clear the decks!" mode at the moment- I'm so swamped I barely have time to put on pants each morning. I'm hoping to have most of the backlog cleared by the end of the month, and we can go from there.

    Doc.
    Doc's Machine & Airsmith Services: Creating the Strange and Wonderful since 1998!
    The Whiteboard: Daily, occasionally paintball-related webcomic mayhem!
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    • Trbo323
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 6358
      • Vancouver WA

      #8


      Originally posted by DocsMachine
      I was going to say... I have five SLs on the table right now, as soon as I start the machining, I'll take a look at the seals. Material's easy enough, and I could pop 'em out by the bushel in the turning center.

      Power tubes would be a bit more involved, but those are certainly possible too.

      I'm in kind of "clear the decks!" mode at the moment- I'm so swamped I barely have time to put on pants each morning. I'm hoping to have most of the backlog cleared by the end of the month, and we can go from there.

      Doc.
      Please no updating the shop log with pictures until you find your pants

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      • Boomboom
        Brass is the way
        • Dec 2024
        • 17

        #9
        SUCCESS! I contacted tippmann parts and tipmann themselves. They did some digging through the history books and found the info! Ill share it for anyone wanting to machine them. I also contacted Gallagher the company who makes the product and they have a 500.00 minimum purchase. The guy also while digging found 6 full valve bodies with cup seals that they're sending me. I told him there's a decent demand for them and they were more than willing to help keep them alive! So happy.
        Attached Files

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        • C26G
          C26G commented
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          Good work man. Did that dude have any more Cup Seals for sale?

        • Boomboom
          Boomboom commented
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          No he didn't I'm not ready to make them yet. Also docs machine said he would make a bunch of them when he has time. I provided him with the specs
      • DocsMachine
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2699
        • Alaska

        #10
        Yep, specs received, just too busy at the moment to do anything about it. I'll be happy to make 'em, I just need to get some of this other stuff I've promised out the door, first.

        Doc.
        Doc's Machine & Airsmith Services: Creating the Strange and Wonderful since 1998!
        The Whiteboard: Daily, occasionally paintball-related webcomic mayhem!
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        • Boomboom
          Brass is the way
          • Dec 2024
          • 17

          #11
          I have acquired a lathe. Im attempting to make some cup seals this weekend. We'll see how it goes. If all goes well I'm going to try and make a hundred of them

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          • infamoussmiley
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            • Jul 2020
            • 629

            #12
            Very interested.

            Kindly,

            Smiley

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            • Boomboom
              Brass is the way
              • Dec 2024
              • 17

              #13
              Well. I tried to make some cup seals this weekend. I searched everywhere besides Gallagher for the 60 shore d and no one has it. I ordered some 75 d and made a few cup seals. I installed it and it's too hard to seal. It has to be 60 shore d from Gallagher and they have a 500 dollar minimum purchase. I'll have to wait till I get the cash to buy that much material

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              • C26G
                C26G commented
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                Hey man, we need a fundraiser for this. Calling all Sl 68 owners - donations

              • Cal440
                Cal440 commented
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                I would be in for a small donation
            • Boomboom
              Brass is the way
              • Dec 2024
              • 17

              #14
              I have some other plastic rods that are softer that I'm planning on trying. I threw in the flag for the day. I'll be trying again. I'm going to get this.

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