Bottomline ASAs: to angle or not to angle?

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  • MrBarraclough
    Returnee
    • Dec 2020
    • 587
    • AL Gulf Coast

    #1

    Bottomline ASAs: to angle or not to angle?

    Currently have the stock, slightly angled ASA on my Trilogy and have been thinking about swapping it for a straight duckbill. I don't really notice the angle much with a 68, but when I shoulder it with a 90ci tank the marker sits a bit higher than I like. And with the stock feedneck it is already a ver tall marker. My Automag and EMEK have straight bottomline ASAs, and the stock ASAs on my DYE/Proto markers are either straight or so slightly angled that I cannot rightly remember without having them in front of me. That got me wondering what the prevailing preference was around here.
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    Have to go look at my marker(s) to even remember which I have
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  • FredMnkyDad10
    MCB Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 2228
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    #2
    Most of mine are straight, but I have couple that I have an angle drop on them. Even with bigger tanks I like resting on my forearm.
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    • Jonnydread
      Wild Card
      • Jul 2020
      • 4388
      • Lil Rhody

      #3
      In most of my bottomline markers I prefer straight, but OG guns with smaller co2 tanks angled is the way.
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      • lew
        Devious Dirtbag
        • Jul 2020
        • 1035
        • WY

        #4
        In your case, a straight duckbill might be the way to go. However, with a 90 ci tank, you might find the diameter of the tank competing with your melon (and the mask on it) to get a good position to sight down the marker.

        I really prefer something like a CP on/off on a rail that puts the tank a bit lower, but still mounting it parallel to the bore and not at an angle.
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        • Grendel
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1979
          • Lexington, SC

          #5
          For me the angled ASA (without a drop) is for single tube markers to raise the sight line up to a comfortable position. On stacked tube markers I prefer straight out the back for comfort and functionality. One of the big reasons originally for angled ASAs were to aid in keeping liquid co2 out of the valve.


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          • Toestr
            Certified Post Whore
            • Jul 2020
            • 2871
            • Poland, Onterrible

            #6
            I tend to dislike angled ASAs. Mostly because many of my tanks are flat bottom aluminum tanks and they don't feed right when holding the gun flat or at an upward angle. Also the added length of an HPA reg vs a CO2 valve makes the length of pull longer than I like when the threaded portion sticks out behind the frame.

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            • XEMON
              Frenchy is here!
              • Jul 2020
              • 3029
              • Nor Cal

              #7
              sounds like you know what needs to be done πŸ˜‹
              Originally posted by MrBarraclough
              when I shoulder it with a 90ci tank the marker sits a bit higher than I like.

              Originally posted by MrBarraclough
              That got me wondering what the prevailing preference was around here.
              I personally like BBA a lot with the tank resting on top of my forearm, but with ASA, i tend to prefer straight as it feels a bit tighter, but it depend on the gun ...
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              • latches109
                Always Sciencing
                • Jul 2020
                • 2111

                #8
                Co2 or small HPA tanks I like angled, big HPA tanks straight.

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                • Jordan
                  I. Am. Canadian. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 3476
                  • Southern Ontario, Canada

                  #9
                  Depends on the application... most single tube guns are a bit low for me, sight-wise, so an angled ASA sometimes puts everything right where it needs to be, if I'm not using a drop of some kind.
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                  • glaman5266
                    MCB Life Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1277
                    • WI

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jordan
                    Depends on the application... most single tube guns are a bit low for me, sight-wise, so an angled ASA sometimes puts everything right where it needs to be, if I'm not using a drop of some kind.
                    Pretty much in the same boat.

                    I'm fine with stacked-tube paintguns having duckbills. Cuts the height. But single-tube paintguns are almost too short/low, so an angle is nice.

                    Also, anything that runs on co2 gets an angled ASA by default.
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                    • zinger565
                      Bang Head Here
                      • Apr 2022
                      • 945
                      • Wisconsin

                      #11
                      Anyone making the reverse angle style bottomlines/blocks? I'm aware of Luke's Sidekick, but am looking for something that's ambidextrous, so no side-to-side angle.
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                      • glaman5266
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                        Judging by the reviews, it sounds iffy. But here's the only current one I found in a quick search: https://www.amazon.com/Guerrilla-Air.../dp/B003Z623B0
                        You might have better luck asking for a used one in WTB.

                        I *think New Designs made one back in the day, but not sure. The Psychoballistics Z-Drop could be angled to do what you want, but it weighs about 20lbs, lol.

                      • zinger565
                        zinger565 commented
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                        yeah, knew about the PsychoB Z-Drop, friend had one back in the day, lmao.

                        I think you're right, it was NDZ that made it back in the day. May have to hit up WTB and hunt eBay a bit.
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