So is the sound activated revy really any better then a regular revy with xboard
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Well the revy with eyes will only spin when it senses a gap in the ball stack. But the sound activated spins everytime you shoot so they kind of both accomplish the same result albeit different methods. Both spin as you fire the marker. Someone gonna probably school me but that cool.
kinda neat but the Diablo board on my halo tsa has the ability to change the duration of the motor spining. Not its speed but how long it goes round round after a shot. 10 different setting. On ten, as long as you keep up 1bps it will never stop spinning. Lol
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I have the sound activated internals in my revy. I don't recall ever using a normal one, but I can say the sound activated one is my preference. I'm pretty confident it will be more consistent at the higher limits of its feed rate. I've put it on modern electros and it'll keep up reasonably well. I like that it won't spin when the hopper is low, though I'm sure some people use that as their reload indicator. It's also going to be less sensitive to the ball stack height. If the sensor is right where 2 balls meet, it can have trouble tripping. My Egg had problems with that.
By and large, I think if you can get your hands on the sound activated internals, use them. Even if it's just because it's different and therefore cooler. But I'd argue it's better.
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Im gonna shoot mechs most of the time, I'm just looking for something cheap and decent that will feed better then a gavity fed loader, but for the price of some revy's you can get a z2 or an old rotor so idk, main thing is weight, I don't want something that weighs like a halo and I have no experience with any of these new loaders
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Originally posted by Psycho91 View PostIm gonna shoot mechs most of the time, I'm just looking for something cheap and decent that will feed better then a gavity fed loader, but for the price of some revy's you can get a z2 or an old rotor so idk, main thing is weight, I don't want something that weighs like a halo and I have no experience with any of these new loaders
I definitely think the z2 is great, its not heavy. Its a c*** going back together sometime. i wont get one again though, no reason in my case for the feed rate. But my original was problematic. Board fried and i sent it to kee for a new one. It too broke very quickly. But instead of completely dying like the original, it just was completely random in what would happen whenever I turned it on. I like rotors since i used them for years. I like my rip drive scion too.
A viewloader vlocity aint to heavy and the select force chip for it is .99 cent on ansgear i think. Its feedneck fits a lot of older markers too.i do think most non force fed agitation hopper will feed plenty fast for your mechs.
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Have both, run both, prefer the regular revvy.
The Reloader sound activated works just fine but the motor is really annoyingly high pitched and runs every time you shoot the gun which gets really old after a short while. The shells also have a weird little open area where you would normally have the eyes just in front of the motor which if you chop can get blown full of paint and then is impossible to clean until you take the hopper completely apart. On the upside the shells are lighter and seem more resilient than late model revvy shells. Probably closer to early revvy shells.
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Better in some ways, but maybe not all that much. I had an x-board revvy that I used for a while and ended up putting in the sound activated kit. It always bothered me that the revvy would spin when out of paint and wasn’t quite fast enough, the sound activated solved this. The downside was that the motor in mine was higher pitched and annoyingly louder than the regular (not sure if this was just mine or all of them). It did feed faster or more likely just more consistently if that’s what you are looking for. The sound activated fed well enough to mostly keep up with hinge frame cockers, but not at all the busts that my gog enmey could put out, and I imagine it wouldn’t on the other newer faster mechs. If you are looking around, I ended up with the Valken VSL, which is lighter than most and can keep up, although its a tight tight fit in older cocker feednecks without sanding.
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overall i think the sound activated loaders work well, but the only thing \i don't like about them, is the chance , albeit rare, for the loader to experience a misfeed, and then the loader has no idea there is no ball queued up. If you have a mechanical gun , you'll skip the first or second shot and then be back in business. If you have an electro with eyes , your gun won't fire and you'll be ducking behind cover to shake your loader, or press an anti jam button if you have one. I'll take a loader with eyes, so I can trust the loader will keep working to queue up the next shot for me!'96 RF Mini Cocker, '95 RF Autococker, 68-Automag Classic, Banzai Splash Minimag, Gen-E Matrix, Shoebox Shocker 4x4, Montneel Z-1, Tippmann Pro-Carbine, Tippmann Mini-Lite, Tippmann Model-98, Tippmann 68-Special, Spyder .50 cal Opus/Opus-A , Tippmann .50 Cal Cronus , Gog Enmey .50 cal , Tippmann Vert ASA 68-Carbine, Bob Long Millennium, ICD Grey Green Marble Splash Alleycat Deluxe (runs liquid co2) , Halfblock 2K4 Prostock Autococker , 2K RF Sniper II
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There are 4 categories of activation for electronic loaders that I can think of: Shot detection (Sound, recoil, etc), Eye sensors, constant feed/tension (Rotor), and remote signal activated (RF or Bluetooth). The drawbacks to eyes are that they can get dirty or be messed up from a small amount of debris getting caught in front of them, and when they are working correctly they don't react until the ball stack shifts AFTER the marker has fired and the breach has opened to accept the next paintball, so they are always playing catch up. It's not a big deal on some markers, but if you are shooting closed bolt, or a really fast setup, or something with reduced open breach time (mech ion, eNMEy, or CVO) then it can be less desirable. If you are going to limp one of these styles of setups around with a Revy holding it back, then a sound-activated one might help a tiny bit, but Revy's are probably best suited for slower classic setups instead of fast classics or modern speed machines.
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I am not really familiar with it, but the Pinokio hopper has some manner of leaf sensor down in the breech. It reminded me a lot of Sensi strip thingy in the older Angels.
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Oh yeah! I forgot about those! The Spyder Fasta, Tippmann SL, Valken V-Max loaders, and Pinokio loaders used the bend sensor or a spin wheel in the feedneck to physically be activated when the paint moved. Those would fall in the same "catch-up" or "retro-active" category as eye-sensors, but definitely are their own class! Now that the eye patent in hoppers has expired we will probably see more loaders using the eye system (the expiration of the patent coincided with the release of the Spire IR, and Spire III loaders have unused spots in the feedneck for the placement of eyes). Eyes were one of the first detection systems, and were patented, and a lot of the other detection systems that have been used since were just developed as an alternative to eyes to circumvent the patent.
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I prefer the x board ones. It only spins when you need it so it quieter. Some of my markers are not loud enough for the hopper to register the shot.
Any of the modern mech markers use a force fed loader. Or the Pinocchio speed is a great alternative. I run a rotor because that’s what I purchased like 10-12 years ago and I see no need for a light that tells me when to reload.
Hard to beat the revvy for the money (used) but the newer mech markers will out shoot them easily. Even hopped up version of the revvy. I have never purchased a revvy new. I get them for no more then $20 used in various condition.
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Same here. I can't use the sound-activated ones on my eNMey.
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I imagine the xboard probably have better battery life as well. It only spins when you need it. I have no proof of that just theory. But I definitely perfer the ones with eyes and that aftermarket 4 armed agitator thingy.
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Yeah, I can't use my sound activated loader on my Etha 2. Even after adjusting sensitivity all the way up, it's not reliably feeding at higher rates of fire and having to shake/slap the loader defeats purpose of an electric loader. Works fine on other markers.
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IMO the old "soft shell", black 12V Revi with X board is the best hopper that has ever been made. There are newer ones that have a hard shell that if you tap it rather clicks like a counter top, etc. Those suck really bad, notorious for snapping off at the neck. Almost all of the colored ones are the newer hard shell, super hard to find those as soft ones.
The other cool aspect is that if you can find some of the old Viewloader gravity hoppers and some of the old pods the spring and lid are the same.
Of note, the Viewloader and many of the later models share the same board and eye components, so buying working but broken hard shell units are worthwhile for the electronics.
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If it has the googley eyes in the revolution logo then it is a pre BE revy and is nearly indestructibleLast edited by Chappy; 10-20-2020, 03:15 PM.
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