What was the first center feed marker?

[Trbo323]

Question just popped into my head today. What was the first production center feed marker made? Meant for a hopper.



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[iamthelazerviking]

From looking at this, seems like it would be something around 93-94 but the exact marker, unsure.

https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/p...guns-1987-2009

[Socalpumpballer]

I would assume center feed bob long autocockers would be pretty early

[Psycho91]

Probably something wgp or Bob long did, other then agd and pgps they were the big names back in the start

[Chappy]

The very first was probably a modified Sheridan

[shooter311]

Does a PGP count? 😋

[JonM]

No, but Nelspots and their ranching brethren predate the PGP anyway. Google's AI response is wrong (as usual).

[Trbo323]

The very first was probably a modified Sheridan

Does a PGP count? 😋

I'm wondering production run set up for a hopper

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[Ecapnation]

Center feed with the hopper sitting vertically?

Or just dropping the ball down the middle?

Custom made or production?

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The first I know of as a semi was the brass eagle barracuda.

But there was a pump that had the feed port on the pump handle that sit vertical..... Plus the wgp ranger and commando dropped in vertically but had offset feeds

[Drcemento]

those adds are great - I've been going back through trying to trace the history of the revy as well. Based on those adds it sure looks the like 98 was the year, and the bob long autocockers, STO's and angels are the 3 that first offered it, which one of those was actually first would be some fun trivia, or if it was something completely different. Still don't care for them!

[Ecapnation]

Bob long had exclusive rights on vertical feed cockers till the sto which dropped in 96. I have. Prototype cut on a bob long body.

Angel was later beaten by the ICD bushmaster I think

[minimag03]

That's interesting... did Bob Long or WGP produce the vert feed bodies for BL cockers? Their feednecks look different than WGP bodies.

[Ecapnation]

Bud made them for the Ironmen/ bob

[JonM]

I believe the '97 STO came in center feed, but I'm pretty sure the '97 Bob Long Cockers were still right feed at that time. The center feed Bob Long Signature Series came out in '98, I think. At least, that's what year mine is.

[acrewofone]

1997 Brass Eagle Rainmaker?

[Trbo323]

1997 Brass Eagle Rainmaker?

You might be on to something there

Anyone find anything before 97?

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[Ecapnation]

Bob long had exclusive rights on vertical feed cockers till the sto which dropped in 96. I have. Prototype cut on a bob long body. Shown below.... Knights were a wgp employee team these were their inhouse made team gun which evolved into the STO

Bud was monkeying with them since late 95. The first generation had shorter vertical feeds.

[nerdcore]

Autocockers being the first vertical feednecked markers feels right somehow. Either those or automags.

What prompted the change from angled to vertical? Or from integrated feedtubes to any kind of neck, for that matter?

[Ecapnation]

Mags were very very late.... And when they did weren't originally a production gun.

The diggers mini mag was the first center feed offered to the public and that came out around the time of the RT mag

[minimag03]

Id guess balance of a gun and feed rate both played into the decision to vertical becoming dominate. Around 97-98, the first electronic guns were coming out and it wasn't long before they were out shooting the Revy. Plus speedball formats made playing out both sides of a bunker with a smaller profile more important. That's arguably easier with a vertical feed.

[minimag03]

When did Palmers get into modifying Sheridans? There must have been one made into a vert feed before 96.

If we are talking production, were all early Typhoons side feed or was vert feed an option from the start?

[Ecapnation]

The first center feed hounds tooth was 97