Large T9.1 Lot

[antifat]

I have this listed on my eBay account and will remove that listing before sending any PayPal information.
Looking for 1450, price is pretty firm and doesn't include shipping.
The description is the same as my eBay listing and details some issues.

This is a low serial number (017) T9.1 with a lot of extras. There are 6 T9.1 mags, 1 T8.1 mag, and 4 T8 mags modified to fit. I haven't tested the T8 mags other than making sure they engage the Lapco extended magazine catch. The original TA stock is included as well as a Killjoy Industries R.O.C. (Reversible, Offset, Collapsible) stock. There is a Hawke compound bow scope mounted on the Killjoy A.P.R. (Adjustable Picatinny Rail). The original barrel with removable faux suppressor and a Lapco rifled FSR barrel with removable Lapco loudener are included and both barrels have idiot marks that are not visible when installed that were caused by the front shroud screw being too far in. The barrel tips are the same thread and interchangeable. The front shroud is a very tight fit on the Lapco barrel. There are spare detents, the original magazine catch, and the original CO2 stem to allow the use of 12 grams in the magazines. There is also a Tiberius Arms vest, 10 Milsig mag pouches, a folding foregrip, a new remote line and a new Valken tank pouch.


The reason this is being listed as not working is because this isn't a pull it out of the box and go play type of marker, depending on how you want it set up it may need to be modified. FS rounds are extremely finicky, I have never had good luck with them and I don't really have a field to go to that allows them so there isn't much reason for me to keep this. They did seem to do OK without the front shroud but that was a small test with just one mag, I suspect it's causing the barrel to be slightly tilted and causing the misfeeds.

EDIT: I was able to test this more recently and without the front shroud it feeds fine with FS rounds in the T9.1/T8.1 mags, the T8 mags also fed fine with round balls, so it is just the front shroud that is causing feeding issues.

[Neo8675309XRP]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176585537114?_skw=tiberius+arms&itmmeta=01JB4BMKW6QFHKSAQG49HZF0NA&hash=item291d51765a:g:VDsAAOSwNJxm7NGU&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlU8GVRylBC7tbHJhVe9wm3p9J6Gn2ha220qDg6Vu5jwFlfbPLSwOEBQ%2FAy8CqY6Y5EhmeeZTT9CVaqYkV4%2B8E78bgOaR4hD7hk41n0fjJVdbJ3XrCtrTmjQ6Mk1KcWNYWurNCYtaS4x76FszZXynXcLhU3O%2FbPjJmUwtlTshVVs8z33cEz5T%2FRgUwu9YBlnPT05R09uTZqEF0jJqJzAHMfQVwlBUdeca1Kyc1TQs%2BOCH2mbyuTNvEMHzQ5e6w2HrNGpmrJ98Qxq5hS3PxZuySdGC6oC6zURuilnfUAaK1T3g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5i-0ovZZA

Beautiful lot but $2000? Am I missing something or is it gold plated?

[antifat]

I already broke down the pricing in a message on eBay, so I'll just repost that breakdown here

Sure, the t9.1 mags are going for 160 each, so that's 960 for the 6 of those, the t8 mags are 50 each, so another 200, the t8.1 mag is another 50, the mag pouches are 30 per pair for another 150, the vest is 50, the tank pouch is 30, the remote is 25, scope is 175, I had to do a bit of research to value the killjoy parts but from what I could find the riser should be 125 and the stock around 250 which is already over 2000 before pricing the marker, fsr barrel and the rest of the small bits

I also don't think it's any secret though that typical eBay seller meta is to start with a high price and bring it down slowly over time. I'm already paying for the store, it doesn't cost anything extra to let an item sit and have the listing renew.

[Neo8675309XRP]

Understood my man. It’s a beautiful marker. Your price of 1450 is much closer to my estimation. Let’s see what the mags are going for:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126767452429?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D276668%26meid%3D60c60cdba89940e89705bd3dc6ba4861%26pid%3D101952%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D126767452429%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DWatchlistVariantWithMLR_BP%26brand%3DTiberius%2BArms&_trksid=p4375194.c101952.m162921&_trkparms=parentrq%3A25a90b791930a61eb0af737cffff5460%7Cpageci%3A2ee40431-a1c1-11ef-838f-925759993107%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage

[Psycho91]

It will never sell for that, sorry it just won't

[nnolt89]

ooof, yeah and mg100 is way better and much cheaper

[Neo8675309XRP]

I don’t think it will sell for that either. He thinks the t9.1 mags are going for 160. Let’s see what eBay says.

[antifat]

I'll do one better and post actual eBay research data on "T9.1 magazine" for the last 6 months, when I initially posted this for sale on eBay it was mid September


Originally when I priced this the latest auction for a single mag was 167.60 total, I would consider that 160, and at the time was trending upwards. I don't know how I can be anymore transparent.

[Refoogee]

Let me break this down for you so you can better understand what people are telling you.

These old Tiberius Arms pistols/carbines are enthusiast pieces at this point in time. They're very niche. Most people looking for a T9.1 these days, are not looking to get into the platform, they're looking for bits, and pieces, to keep playing with their T9. The other thing that drives up the cost of these things, is people looking to modify them into a less lethal personal defense weapon. That is even more niche (and, quite frankly, very stupid imho).

What that means is the prices things go for can indeed be very steep. Someone is obviously willing to pay 160 for a magazine. The key point being a single magazine. The people buying those single magazines, are looking to buy one. Because it's not really the cost of the magazine they're paying, that's the cost they're paying to replace a magazine, and keep their entire old school Tiberius Arms setup good to go for the foreseeable future.

You are selling an entire lot. Buying from you, is buying into the platform. That's a completely different ask. You're competing with other magfed setups currently on the market. You're competing with Tippmann TMC's, FS T15's, PE EMF100's, etc. For pure pistol, you're competing against the TPX. At the price you're asking, you're competing with a brand new DYE DAM. I'll be honest, for someone just looking to buy a magfed marker, every single other option on the market is a better choice.

My suggestion is this. If you want to keep your prices high, sell everything individually. It won't sell fast, but you'll pick up a buyer here and there. Hell, I'd be interested in some of the t8 mags for parts. The T8 mag shells are not sought after, but the springs/valves are just fine.

If you want to sell everything together, you need to come down significantly to better compete with other magfed options.