Am I the only one that doesn't like on/off ASAs?

[SignOfZeta]

I don’t have any gun with an on-off.

Some of my bottles screw off some of my ASAs just fine gassed up and some won’t budget. I’m not exactly sure what that’s about but I think the on-off really became the norm when unreliable guns became the norm, the peak mech era. If you’re using a Phantom that’s one thing but If you have to strip your machine six times a day you want all manner of convenience. It’s also a nice safety feature for 20bps guns that doesn’t really relate to pumps which is all I ever run.

I wish I had the feature sometimes but obviously one can do without.

[Magmoormaster]

I was that way until I got a good on/off. Now I refuse to not have one.

[RedLeaderSB]

I also subscribe to the sconi/xsv asa. They are perfect with 45 or 15 bottles, and they are cheap so I can standardize across the collection for shouldering/aiming geometry. Also allows an AL tube for macro when paired with a medium sidewinder on snipers.
Grease your tank threads and orings people. Dry threaded interfaces are for cavemen.

[Olsson]

I am a sucker for aesthetics, and in my mind it looks out of place with a modern on/off ASA on older markers. So the majority of my Automags have duckbill ASAs, preferably matching anno.

On my electros I prefer on/off ASAs, although which one is heavily dependent on which one I think looks the best for any given marker. I do have a penchant for CP ASAs though, and I would like more Bob Long on/offs for my BL markers, although they are a tad pricey.

So all in all, I guess I am a bit "fashion over function", since I really feel that on/off ASAs are way more functional than non on/offs. The few that have leaked have been easy fixes.

[Jonnydread]

You fashionable Swedes

[maggot]

I agree that on/offs do not justify the spend... but most things in paintball don't. I have on/offs on all my guns that don't have a match-ano'd duckbill.

[Olsson]

This is the way.

[RAZRBAKK]

I find I regularly have issues getting the tank off some standard ASAs. I also seem to chew an o-ring every other time I remove the tank.

On/Offs are an essential for my CA guns. I've never had issues with one leaking(not trying to imply it doesn't happen, just been lucky I guess), and as soon as I'm out or the game ends I de-gas and pop a shot to clear the gun.

I only have one on/off I don't like, but my CPs have all been problem free.

[autococker04]

CP direct mount is still the golden standard for me. The POPs ones are growing on me though.

[glaman5266]

One thing I don't think I saw mentioned here is that on/offs are great for aluminum tank bonnets. Brass slides easily, so there's no 100% need for an on/off with brass bonnets. I purposely buy tanks/regs with brass bonnets so I can use them across all my paintguns.

For me, it boils down to the paintgun I'm using. Blowbacks, pumps & older paintguns in general I typically just run a plain ASA. Or if it's a paintgun that I don't mind beating the snot out of.
For cockers & electros I like on/offs for quick de-gassing if I blow a hose or something. They're also good for quick gassing/de-gassing during testing after rebuilds.

[lhamilton1807]

I definitely prefer on/offs, but like many have said I don’t find it necessary especially for co2 bottles with brass bonnets. I play a lot of outlaw ball and my hoard of blowbacks that I loan out all have standard ASAs. No way it would be reasonable to outfit all of my $40 loaners with $40 on/offs.

But for my stuff that I use regularly, definitely prefer venting on/offs if I have one. I don’t need a fancy POPS/SLAPS - CP and OOPS on/offs work just fine. I agree w others about the plastic levers DYE still seems to think are cool - that plastic is just waiting to bust.

[Toestr]

The non purging on/offs tend to be more reliable IMO as it's only one oring. I prefer these to the purging ones especially for guns with regs that hold a few shots of air (GoG eNMEy). It forces me to shoot to empty the lines and thereby emptying the reg. No surprises when I try to disassemble.

I will not use a regular ASA on tanks with aluminum bonnets. It's complete BS the industry went that way for the cheapest rebranded Chinese HPA tanks. They all know new players are going to pick those up not knowing any better. The stock ASA on my eNMEy is particularly tight which I could see being a big issue for aluminum bonnets.

The Smart Parts on/offs sound horrible as they actually make it harder to take the tank off with the air off. The worst on/off I've ever used was an NDZ. Mine would have issues were it wouldn't purge. The shuttle inside would stay depressing the pin even after the screw was undone. It did actually work fine with lower pressure outputs though.

[Jonnydread]

That’s a good point about guns that hold air, probably best to have a fail safe there.

[chrislognshot]

well if you had old thermal tank you would thanking for on/off vale

[autococker04]

I would rather have a duckbill than a check it unimount. I attribute much of my adult grip strength to turning these things off as a teen.

other than that, usually prefer an on off because I like to leave the tank in my gun and run around the house like a psycho

[Olsson]

100% relatable on the unimount issue.

[RAZRBAKK]

Oh THATS what those are called. I loath those ASAs.

[jetenginekyle]

i quite like that acp slim line asa. Its a modernized duckbill that looks good and is only $20 compared to the $45 cp on/off I feel it is a much better deal

[homerj]

I like on/offs because a lot of times i just toss my gear in the trunk without taking the hopper or tank off & may not get around to cleaning it for a couple of days or more.

[cougar20th]

I resisted for awhile. But now have on offs on most guns. That doesn't mean I actually use the on off feature. Since I gave one of the ninja ball type regs I leave everything in the on position and use them as you would a duckbill.

[chrislognshot]

i was lucky to own gramps and grizzly thermal tank which taught me why you want all tanks to have on/off value. since if not that tank stays open at all times did not have pin on the tank if left open nothing to stop air coming out. unless your pump the gun to shoot next ball. so if on gun only way to stop take is when not pumping the gun to load the air