Yeah, my girlfriend got it, either from a coworker who "only had a cold" (tested positive), or a cousin who also "only had a cold" but couldn't taste or smell anything. The crazy part is that her employer, a freakin medical clinic, is asking her to come back to work before her symptoms are gone. This whole 5 day quarantine recommendation is lunacy.
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a few of the guys in the office got the vaccine and booster and still got it. whats the point moving forward? what can possibly be done at this point to make things better...Comment
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The hospitals in the US are an absolute dumpster fire right now. Like MAr intimated getting the shot doesn't really make you any less likely to get the virus, it makes it way less likely that you'll need to be hospitalized. You get the Fauci Ouchie not to die and to help your community.
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From what I understood Pfizer will upgrade his vaccine for Omicron around March
I know a lot of people that cough Covid it in the last few week even if they where vaccinated but at least their symptom where only mild. Where one of them that was not vaccinated yet cough it and have been sick for 3 week with a lot of symptom💀Team Ragnastock💀Comment
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While people are still contracting COVID with the initial vaccine and the booster, the severity is greatly diminished. With my wife's breathing issues, there's no doubt in my mind that her situation would have been far worse had she not been vaccinated. I work for a hospital system and I can tell you that the people who have been admitted (and those who are dying) are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. At this point, the vaccine is like wearing a PFD on the water. If the boat sinks, you may not drown but you can still get wet.Originally posted by Tarsun2 View PostComment
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The ‘rona went thru our house last week, probably Omicron since that’s apparently 98% of the local case load. My wife & daughter felt awful for a week, with aches, fever, nausea, and congestion (but not all at the same time… each new day brought a different mix of symptoms). No one lost taste or smell. My son and I only had a head cold with mild fatigue for 3 days. *shrug*. I think my November booster really helped - I actually held it off for about 5 days before I got sick - everyone else in the house was sick long before I had so much as a sniffle. Kids aren’t boosted yet since they were about 3 weeks from being eligible. Wife decided one shot of J&J 7 mo ago was enough. This disease is so random it’s hard to know on an individual level whether boosters will help, but it seems that on the macro level boosters really seem to prevent serious disease, so I’m all for them.Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky:
“You don’t need a safety keep your booger hook on the bang switch.“Comment
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I had a similar expierence with the rolling symptoms. Tired the first day. Then developed a headache prompting my test.
Next day was sore throat, next day the cough developed, next 2 days it was toral sinus congestion, and yesteeday symptoms seemed to taper.
This morning I got through a light workout while coughing up a lot of phlem, but Im feeling a lot better.
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Following a Janssen vaccine early last year I got a cold in early January... and lost my sense of smell for a whopping 6 hours. Complete, can of garlic shells like water, loss of smell, that cleared up by dinner.
Of course, couldn't even find a test within 10 days... but if that's Omicron, welcome to the party. Glad it's more mild, and if studies are any indication, I'm now something like 37 times less likely to contract it again compared to just a shot or two (or three or...).Feedback
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It went threw my house. Kids had a stuffy nose. I had migraines in the morning that cleared with Tylenol and a hot shower. My wife got her ass kicked for a week. With body aches weakness migraines and a pretty good fever. She got it the worst. She’s also the only one vaccinated and boosted. Me and the kids are unvax but I had Covid D earlier in the pandemic and was asymptomatic. I caught it after being stuck back to back 16hr shifts on the Covid Unit at work. So I was exposed to it for an entire week for long hours and brought it home to my family.
We have a large number of people at work that are not vaccinated. So far the Vaccinated people are catching it just as much as the unVaccinated. Symptoms Range all over the place regardless of status. Flu is going around to and that’s way worse then Covid. Everyone is going to get it and get over it. It’s burning itself out should be all good in a month or two.Comment
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Been awhile... But Ive caught rona twice. Didn't do much too me, thankfully. Im too toxic and male. I was more pissed about the fact I wasn't supposed to smoke. I still did. Cheers.
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I seem to be in the minority, but decided to wait and see how effective and the results of these experimental "vaccines" after a few years or so. So far kinda glad I did. They seem to have limited upside with downside being a legitimate concern. So far they say your symptoms would be less, but that is the most unverifiable statement I have heard. Someone who isn't vaxd can still be asymptomatic, vaxd can still get the coof bad. Seems like we are still trugging towards medical apartheid, although hopefully that is slowing or reversing. Do you plan on getting boosted every year? Multiple times a year? Seems like coof was lab created and the cure, which doesn't seem to work well, is making pharma bank while the only immunity it provides is to pharma legally. Strange times.Comment
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Covid killer right here
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about what vaccine efficacy means. They were meant to prevent severe disease, not specifically prevent catching the bug itself. Diomedes can probably chime in on this. Covid-19 has also mutated multiple times since the vaccines were crafted, and they were made with the original strain as the target. Omicron has a lot of mutations that increase its ability to evade immunity either from prior infection or vaccines. While there’s no way, with the randomness of the virus’s severity and differences between individual immune system strengths, to guarantee you’ll only have minor symptoms, the public health trends are pretty clear: the vast majority of people in the hospital and deaths from the disease are among the unvaccinated. If the public health goal is to get society to the point where the virus has a minimal impact on supply chain, workforce, and health care system disruptions, vaccination seems to be the most effective route. It won’t guarantee no one that’s vaccinated will get seriously sick (because that promise was never made by the manufacturers or the cdc or fda), but the number will be low enough that the hospitals won’t be heavily taxed to the point that ICU patients, regardless of why they’re in the ICU, can get good care and make it back to normal life. There’s also the issue of long Covid (since there’s a lot that can happen other than just living or dying after infection), which vaccines seem to help alleviate.
I agree that there’s a potential for vaccine apartheid, and that’s a big concern of mine as well. As to whether il consider getting boosted a few times a year, sure I will. I’ve seen no legitimate reports of danger surrounding the mRNA vaccines. Of course there are plenty of unsubstantiated theories flying around, but the danger from the vaccines seems legitimately lower than the danger from the disease, even when considering that I’m a relatively healthy person without the vaccine.Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky:
“You don’t need a safety keep your booger hook on the bang switch.“Comment
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Yeah, I think it is a decision each person should make for themselves. Getting mandates and employers involved was a low blow.
The Vax verbiage kinda changed through the rollout. First you won't get it, then breakthrough cases, now it is a therapeutic at best. They also changed the definition of vaccine through this rolling narrative.
Appreciate you being willing to talk about it!
I think I am in the camp of wait it out and get healthy otherwise, loose weight eat right etc.
Big pharam has helped alot of people, they also have hurt tons of people selling product. Seems like one of the last areas where cash runs rampant and they take medical providers out on lavish dinners and trips to push their products, seems to be less caring about a patient and more caring about "standards of medical care" aka cover your rear, and getting the money flow running.
Big hit to the trust people have in these institutions, which was already thinning due to opioid epidemic and their business practices in general.
Life insurance started denying payments to those that pass from Vax, this is where it will get interesting. Big ins vs big pharma.
I guess time will tell.
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Agreed, there’s a tenuous trust in place with me and big pharma. It’s why I’ve done so much research on the new vaccines; long term pharmaceutical “care” has led to some big health struggles for my mother. For myself I see vaccines as preventative medicine and opioids (and other long-term care meds) as curative medicine. I believe an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and the case seems to hold for the vaccines (medically speaking). What society/government does with that efficacy is a separate question for me than whether the vaccines are effective or safe.
I’m not sure what you’ve heard about life insurers refusing payout for those getting vaccinated - do you have links? Here’s what I could find on it.
https://havenlife.com/blog/covid-vac...ife-insurance/ (Notes that for those with comorbidities, vaccination might actually help procure life ins)
From what I can tell, the life insurance thing started on social media and included no supporting documentation. Two red flags in my mind.Last edited by lhamilton1807; 01-19-2022, 04:29 PM.
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Here in NZ the rollout has started for kiddies. There seems to be an admission of sorts among sciency folks that there's minimal reason for kids to get vaccinated other than to help reduce the spread. It's common for our govt to be at odds with the WHO or Pfizer even, always in the direction of more mandates and more lockdowns.
My kids wont be getting it any time soon, though I've had it and I'm fine with it for myself.
I think trust in the news media here is at an all time low. Besides having the biggest PR team in our history, our govt is handing out strings-attached funding to the big news orgs.Comment
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It was in France for this one, US still paying out currently I think. May be subject to change.
link to story: (MOD EDIT: PLEASE BE ADVISED NOTHING IN THIS LINK IS VERIFIABLE AT THIS POINT, BY THE ARTICLES OWN ADMISSION)
https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/14...vaccine-death/Last edited by Chappy; 01-20-2022, 01:13 PM.Comment
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If that’s happening, it’s a crappy way to go about things.
But I honestly have doubts about the entire story. I’ve followed that link and a lot of the links from that article to others. None of them have any documentation whatsoever that any of the claims can be validated, including what the lawyer for the family posted on Facebook (or rather that he posted no documentation at all). I would think a real lawyer would file something in court - lawyers don’t get paid for the number of likes or comments they get on FB; they get paid for legal filings and arguing the case in court. I can understand the mainstream media not wanting to publish a story that doesn’t have anything to back it up - doing so is just poor journalism. The article’s only moment of clarity comes right at the end where it (finally) successfully documents potential rising life insurance premiums due to more claims payouts than anticipated. But that actually confirms the opposite of what the story was written about - insurance companies are paying out tons of claims, not withholding them.
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Your going to have to do better with evidence then this. There is no information in this article and the links are a circle of references that basically say the same things without any facts. And they are all very obviously biased.
Edit: The more I delve into this, the more obvious it becomes that this is a misinformation campaign with zero facts behind it. Please provide better information on this.
I mean, this is right from the article you posted:
" The case was published by the family’s lawyer, Carlo Alberto Brusa, on social media. Unfortunately, no sources or court records are given, which is why the authenticity of the report cannot currently be verified"
You may want to do some research on Mr. Brusa, and ask yourself if his social media post is really enough for us to be going on,Last edited by Chappy; 01-20-2022, 12:50 PM.
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Always remember the first rule of the internet. Everything shared on social media is a lie.
It's kind of like quoting the rants of a random drunk guy at the end of the bar. Quite often entertaining, pretty much never factually correct.Comment
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