Alright! - thank you all as always. Going with Bondhus - I was stoked to see they offered a colored set of Ball end L keys - thats what made me really tempted to hit order on the Wiha. Thankfully calmer heads prevailed and more posts came in! higher priced than the cheepo black oxides but not Wiha crazy town. got a set of ball end T-handles to!
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I use Bondhus T handles. I have a full set on my tool box in the garage and a few on my paintball work bench in the basement. I opted to get only the most common sizes that I use for the workbench instead of a second full set.
I love the Fireball hex key holders and have them on my tool box and my work bench. It makes pulling out L keys way easier. I bought them with their hex keys and they have been holding up. https://www.fireballtool.com/collections/hex-keysRed OneComment
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Bondhus is the way for sure. I always seem to lose my 5mm one. For torx sets, the PB Swiss ones are incredible, but the T-15 wrench with the knurled handle is hard to find now.Comment
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There's a YouTube I love called " project farm".
The guy buys tools and torture tests then. There's an allen wrench episode. Watch it. The information is valuable.
I have saved a few bucks watching his videos. Great testing and info.Comment
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When I'm using an electric driver, I really like these for getting into fasteners set in narrow holes. I had to go with an Amazon no-name because I couldn't seem to find any from a known brand:
Originally posted by Tom Kaye, in response to FS price critics:
Unfortunately all of you have played the one "speedball" game of paintball for so long you can't conceive of other ways to do this and hence any new ideas seem stupid.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Tekton wrenches.
For something different at work, I picked up a screwdriver and bits set.
I did it so I could see if someone got sticky fingers and walked off with it.
The wrenches appear really good and are laser marked pretty clear.
They also have a lifetime warranty on al their tools where all you do is send them a picture and they send you out a new tool.
No receipts BS or trading in for rebuilt tools.
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Do consider that you WILL need at least 3 sets to be a proper well setup paintballer.
Right now you're shopping for your bench set. These are your babies, your pride an joy, and they must NEVER leave your home. If you take them to the field at least two will mysteriously disappear by the end of the day even if only you touch it and one will get somehow broken even if it's nearly indestructible on the workbench. A bench set can last you a lifetime, or 2 weekends at the field.
So that means you need a dedicated field set. You'll want something good, but not too good. And easily replaceable. The more easily it can be replaced the less likely it is to be lost. Also this set should be not a large t-handle set, there are times where a smaller L-shaped wrench can be more useful, especially for field expediate repairs. The important rule for this set, only YOU can use it. I've had a set go from brand new sealed in the package, to two wrenches being completely lost, in under 3 minutes because I let a teammate borrow it.
So that leaves your third set. A pair of folding sets, metric and imperial, spray painted bright pink, and chained to a very large brick. This is your loaner set. If the person is a good, close friend you MIGHT be convinced to unlock the chain from the brick, but don't do it! It's a trap. You'll discover that set somehow chained to the chrono station of a field 2 counties over you've never been to before.Comment
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This man has a Phd in AllenkeyDo hard things for fun. Being soft is for sissies. Being an asshole is easy, thats why everyone is one. Being stand up us hard. Be a hard bastard but be respectful.Comment
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From the Torque Test channel... seems like this belongs here.
https://youtu.be/j-2A2nE-Bxs?si=uDD-Wc6wVzsIIWr2Comment
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Not disputing the logic of having multiple sets but I've had a set of bondhaus for at least 5 years, I don't do separate bench and field tools. I have a large fishing tackle box goes to both. I've managed to not lose any. If you're careful it is possible. But yeah it's not a bad idea to separate them either
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Yeah, it's an unusual test method - but I think he did a good job with it for his comparison testing. His intent was to use a standardized socket that he could replace for each test, measuring how much each tool could torque that standardized socket before it or the tool yielded. Fasteners range from soft to hard materials, and I'd say it's more often that the fasteners are softer than the tool. This test accounts for that scenario rather than ensuring that every tool is taken to yield. Just because that's possible in a lab doesn't mean fasteners can withstand the same loads. So, in his test, tools that distribute the loads more evenly will perform better.
A great example of this principle is comparing hex drive to torx drive. The entire purpose of torx (or hexalobular drive if you're also wearing a pocket protector) is to distribute that torque evenly by caming against the fastener in a way that both stabilizes the tool and relies on hoop strength as well as shear strength.Comment
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It was interesting to see something objective and measurable. The side by side comparison was helpful. It has me thinking about picking up a set of the PB Swiss just for the massive off angle ability of the ball end. The Bondhus seems to be the best bang for the buck. The Tekton results validates why the set or two I have floating around here have never impressed me. I would have liked to see him test some smaller sizes, also curious how the WIHA tools would compare.
Not perfect, but way better than the standard subjective type review.Comment
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