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  • MrKittyCatMeowFace
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 2386
    • Glen Ellyn Illinois

    #31
    I think I am a little old to be taking girls to the prom though! XD

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    • Cal440
      Cal440 commented
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      Not sure on the price of this car, but I drive a 2002 taurus that's ready to hit 200,000 miles have had no major repairs just normal stuff that wears out. Check the back side of those rocker moldings these are notorious for rotting out under them, look and see if the dog leg on the quarter panels have been repaired.
  • nerdcore
    Sweet Liberty, my arm!
    • Jul 2020
    • 512
    • Crashville

    #32
    My kid drives a 2007 toyota yaris. We bought it new off the lot, and eventually passed it down to her. Over 200k. Still runs.

    It looks like it's been in a few destruction derbies and the seats feel like a strip club smells, but the only work done on it has been regular maintenance (excluding the time she had to replace the bumper, which she did mostly on her own!).

    Point being, many old cars will run fine. Really depends on how well they were kept (and if the seller can prove it).

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    • MrKittyCatMeowFace
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 2386
      • Glen Ellyn Illinois

      #33
      https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/b99c6aa0-5f56-47ab-a76c-1e13b34df1c6

      I want it, testing driving it later! 34 years old with 109k miles. Properly broken in, and ready for another 100k miles. Right? XD Here's hoping! Those seats just look so comfy!

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      • Paintslinger16
        Paintslinger16 commented
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        Hmm only 82 miles from me if you don’t get it!
    • MrKittyCatMeowFace
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 2386
      • Glen Ellyn Illinois

      #34
      Just got back from looking at a 2009 Toyota Venza. It was beat to s*** so I passed on it it. About to leave to go see a 2008 Toyota Camry with the 4 banger and 130k miles for $5900 even. Just got to finish taking a s***.

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      • MrKittyCatMeowFace
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2386
        • Glen Ellyn Illinois

        #35
        Passed on the Camry as well. Had to reschedule the Pontiac Bonneville test drive, due to my Subaru Forester running out of coolant. Was right next to a BP luckily. 19 bucks later for a big jug, and I was good to go. After I check out the Bonneville. I have to drive to Plainfield to look at this 2013 VW Jetta Wagon with the trusty inline 5, and automatic not DSG. 96k miles, for $5500 even. Kinda wish it were a manual. Just for simplicity and reliability. But man I hate traffic in a stick. Even though I get it. You kind just zone out, and let you muscle memory do the job. But it blows, especially if you are already having a shitty day. If I want to shift my own gears. I will save up for a yellow Honda Nighthawk 750, or a Pacific Coast 800.

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        • Chuck E Ducky
          Chuck E Ducky commented
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          Stay away from the 2.0T if you go VW. The 2.5 is very Reliable mainly PCV valves, coils, the older gaskets
          Can weep oil. You’re going to want to regularly check the oil while oil consumption isn’t a major issue. You need to keep an eye on it. Check the axels if they have been replaced with aftermarket ones you don’t want the car. Reaxel will rebuild OEM ones to better then factory spec. They won’t do aftermarket and the aftermarket ones will only last a few seasons. OEM cores are expensive rebuilding OEM is not. Things that might start going around 125-150k is wheel bearings and control arms they can still be found reasonable. I’m a sucker for a good wagon. The TDI ones are sweet but I think they will likely be out of your price range.
      • MrKittyCatMeowFace
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2386
        • Glen Ellyn Illinois

        #36
        Pontiac Bonneville was super nice. Blows hot and cold, radio works, power seat works, mirrors work, wipers work, all your lights work. Nice interior and exterior, suspension handles the road great, and it shifts and drives with no issues. I do need to get it on a lift to get a proper look at it. $6,102 OTD. It does need a rear window motor. Since the driver or passenger button won't make it go down. Could not hear it's electric motor making any noise. It did seem to smoke a little more than a modern cars exhaust. Not sure if it was normal for this model. Did not reek of burnt coolant or oil though. I did smell a little burning oil at one point in the cabin. Only when I redlined it for a couple seconds to see if would tick or knock. They had already replaced the valve cover gasket since it was leaking. So maybe an old drop of oil just broke free, and hit the exhaust manifold or something. I also noticed that it did not maintain a consistent idle. It it would go up and down very slightly. It didn't idle high, but it would go up and down like 100-200 rpms slowly. Paintslinger16 I would buy it if I don't. Could be a great car to restore. Or it could be a super cool beater, that you drive as is, until it gives up the ghost.

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        • The Hobbit
          Bunker Buster
          • Jan 2022
          • 488

          #37
          Car shopping sucks, been watching for a suburban 99-14 for several months. Everything is either a ton of miles, rotted, or priced well above my budget.

          Good luck with your search.

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          • MrKittyCatMeowFace
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 2386
            • Glen Ellyn Illinois

            #38
            Originally posted by The Hobbit
            Car shopping sucks, been watching for a suburban 99-14 for several months. Everything is either a ton of miles, rotted, or priced well above my budget.

            Good luck with your search.
            I know man. I have seen some shit. Had a guy kick me out of his shitty used car dealership because I wanted to look at more than 1 car on the lot. He was all "What, you want me to bring all these car up for you"? I'm stunned. Two of the three cars were 10 steps away from the front door. I go "hey man I want to buy the best vehicle you have, but if you are gonna bust my balls for looking at more than 1 car, I can just leave". "FINE LEAVE". MY MONEY NOT GREEN OR SOMETHING? XD

            I really wish this dealer wasn't marking this up so much. This is not a 5 figure car in the slightest. 7-8k. 9 tops! It doesn't even have the naturally aspirated dohc engine. It has the 2.4 single jingle with a Automatic! Which I"m perfectly fine with. The car looks awesome. But it's not 14k before fees and taxes!

            https://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/e...7/convertible/

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            • William the Third
              William the Third commented
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              Car/Used car prices have gotten ridiculous. $7,000~$20,000 for a ~30 year old Eclipse? They were a great car in their time, but even super clean with low miles, it's still a ~30 year old mass produced car.

            • Cunha
              Cunha commented
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              Its not a good value except that its now nearly 30 years old. Becoming nostalgic and a good nostalgia color and in good shape. A total cool vibe easy to drive cute car. Worth it if its worth it to you.

            • William the Third
              William the Third commented
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              Yeah Cunha, but rubbers and plastics don't age well, especially 90's era mass produced cars/trucks (I don't think there is a late 90's/early 00's Dodge Ram out there with an original dash, or any other plastic interior parts for that matter, that aren't cracked/broken due to the shit plastic they used). If you're collecting it, that's not as big of a deal, but for a daily driver, that's going to get annoying really fast.

              I get some older cars holding value, or even appreciating, like the Honda S2000 for example. However, as much as I like the Eclipse (especially the AWD in the first two generations), there were nearly one million made over all four generations. The spyder/convertible versions are a lot less common, but there are still a lot of them out there.
          • The Hobbit
            Bunker Buster
            • Jan 2022
            • 488

            #39
            Yes I definitely struggle with “knowing used car prices pre-Covid” and saying this shit ain’t worth these prices.

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            • Daltech
              Electro<Mech<Pump
              • Feb 2022
              • 872
              • West Coast

              #40
              Old folks homes.

              Retirement communities.

              I used to poach new car buyers trade ins at the dealership. The dealers will try to fight you. Just lie, and say you’re being friendly. But in reality your poaching that trade in. You can get a 10k jeep for 5k because the dealers only going to give them $3500 for it anyways.

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              • SignOfZeta
                Space Commie
                • Jul 2020
                • 576
                • Ann Arbor

                #41
                Originally posted by MrKittyCatMeowFace
                Pontiac Bonneville was super nice. Blows hot and cold, radio works, power seat works, mirrors work, wipers work, all your lights work. Nice interior and exterior, suspension handles the road great, and it shifts and drives with no issues. I do need to get it on a lift to get a proper look at it. $6,102 OTD. It does need a rear window motor. Since the driver or passenger button won't make it go down. Could not hear itselectric motor making any noise. It did seem to smoke a little more than a modern cars exhaust. Not sure if it was normal for this model. Did not reek of burnt coolant or oil though. I did smell a little burning oil at one point in the cabin. Only when I redlined it for a couple seconds to see if would tick or knock. They had already replaced the valve cover gasket since it was leaking. So maybe an old drop of oil just broke free, and hit the exhaust manifold or something. I also noticed that it did not maintain a consistent idle. It it would go up and down very slightly. It didn't idle high, but it would go up and down like 100-200 rpms slowly. Paintslinger16 I would buy it if I don't. Could be a great car to restore. Or it could be a super cool beater, that you drive as is, until it gives up the ghost.
                Cars like this have the problems you describe. Oil leaks from places, coolant leaks both out of the engine and into wrong parts of the engine. They always need stuff and who ever is selling has fixed things recently or it wouldn’t be in such good shape. When I first started as a mechanic it was cars exactly like this that I worked on. They always need small stuff BUT they almost never need big stuff.

                This is in contrast to a modern car that needs its entire timing drive replaced every 80,000 miles to avoid wasting the entire engine or the car that needs a new turbo every 100,000 miles like it was a maintenance item. Or Fords. Literally any Ford. Nightmares.

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                • hot karl
                  Rockin and Cockin
                  • Jun 2024
                  • 34

                  #42
                  I feel like I got the last good deal I'll ever get on a car 2 years ago. $2000 for a 2008 Corolla. The paint is absolutely blasted, but otherwise it's mechanically solid. I see that as a positive because I don't worry about parking lot dents and scratches.

                  Being in the rust belt doesn't help. I'm lucky enough to now live in a rust free zone. If you live in such a place get the car up on a lift before buying it and do a good inspection. I mean you should always do that anywhere, but for sure in the rust belt. Nothing kills a car better than rust. I can throw parts at a car forever, but I can't fix a car that has crumbled into dust.

                  Used car prices are absurd now.

                  Being able to turn some wrenches is a must. Even my car needed a few parts. Wheel bearing (I just did the whole knuckle since I don't have a press) and an ignition coil. I did decide to give it new struts and sway bar end links although probably could have gone a few years on my current ones.

                  Still beats a payment and insurance is like $250/yr for liability and comprehensive.

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                  • cockerpunk
                    Salting the ice
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 222
                    • The Great State Of Minnesota

                    #43
                    Pontiac vibe: a toyota corolla for half price.

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                    • MrKittyCatMeowFace
                      MCB Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 2386
                      • Glen Ellyn Illinois

                      #44
                      Checked out this 1999 Camaro yesterday. I really liked it. Seemed like it could be a good daily. Mechanic owned, who only buys these catfishes to fix up and sell. Price is a little high, but not absurd. $5,990 turned into $7,482 OTD. It's an option.
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                      • MrKittyCatMeowFace
                        MCB Member
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 2386
                        • Glen Ellyn Illinois

                        #45
                        I want it!

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