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    How to remove broken tap inside ASA hole.

    So I had a phantom that had cross threaded asa screw holes. I decided to cheap out and buy the cheapest taps on amazon. First hole it worked perfect. Second hole it snapped off right inside the hole. There was little tourque being applied and of course it snapped right level with the metal so I can't get a pair of vice grips on it. What art my options? I know little about metal work. I returned the remaining taps and bought some extra hardened Milwaukee ones for future use.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Drill a small hole setup it up until you can get a good bite on it with an Ez out.
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      #3
      You can drill that and use an ez-out to pull it/unscrew it
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        #4
        Thanks guys, I guess I'll have to youtube how to use an easy out! I'll order a set right away.

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          #5
          They make broken tap removing tools for 3 & 4 flute straight. Just not sure if they go that small. Basically jamb something it the flutes and try to back it out

          Taps are hardened so prob a pita to drill. I would try everything before that.

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            #6
            It’s going to be hard to drill. Take your time use some cutting oil. If you have a drill press and a good clamp system that would help a lot.

            Did you use cutting oil or some kid of lubricant when using the tap? It helps I highly recommend it. Even motor oil will work in a pinch.

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              Nope, no lube...I am sure that was part of the problem. Although I think the biggest issue is how cheap this tap set is...

            #7
            Try cleaning around it with dental picks, compressed air. Then Take a pair of needle nose pliars and grind the tips down. Wedge the needle nose pliars in to try to spin it back and forth.
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              #8
              Originally posted by Pumpytrilly1 View Post
              Try cleaning around it with dental picks, compressed air. Then Take a pair of needle nose pliars and grind the tips down. Wedge the needle nose pliars in to try to spin it back and forth.
              This guy is on the right track! A quick Google search for broken taps came up with a YouTube about removing small broken taps but I didn't watch it cuz I'm at work

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                #9
                youre never gonna be able to drill that tap out ... especially in aluminium ... the drill it gonna slip and youre going to drill out the frame instead.
                I would break it out. do you have a fine center scribe?
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                • XEMON

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                  Harden tap that brittle will shatter if you hit them with a center punch ...
                  hit it till it crumble to dust then re-thread.

                  Also, when threading (aluminum especially) make sure to use lots and lots of cutting fluid.
                  Half a turn forward, quarter turn back, half a turn forward, quarter turn back, half a turn forward, quarter turn back ...

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                  It’s All about taken your time and lots of lube. (That’s what she said)

                • BrickHaus

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                  I was gonna say smash it up, but itll likely drive itself into the aluminum and force you to heli coil it after you open the hole up.

                #10
                Ive had mixed luck with ez outs. A left hand drill bit may take it out as you drill it. It depends how bad you laid a bur and or bottomed it out.
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                  #11
                  Might be hard to do on a size like this. But one I found and actually worked for me. Is getting some JB weld, using either another screw or small piece of metal rod.

                  Mix the jb weld around the tip or the screw or rod so its gripping around the sides and the tip.

                  Let it set a little bit so the tip is like putty, but not hard. At that point set it on the broken piece. Let it set even longer than usual.

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                    #12
                    If it's flush-ish with the grip, take a Dremel and cut a "slot" in the top of the stem of the broken tap. You will hit the grip frame so you are going to have a mark on the bottom of the grip frame, but if you're tapping the holes, then you're putting SOMETHING there that will cover it up anyway. Then use a flat head screwdriver to back it up -- I've never done it this way with a broken tap, but I have with broken screws/bolts.
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                      #13
                      Okay....So for the first time in a long time, I am going to do the smart thing! I messaged Mozak Machine and he is going to work his magic and try to salvage it. Thanks for all the tips though!

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                        #14
                        Clamp the grip frame really well in a vise, and using a hammer and a sharp center punch, hit that tap as hard as you can. And hit it again.

                        If you do it right- it crumbles and you can pick out the pieces.

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