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    Air Efficient Eko Valve System?

    How does it work? Can't find anything online about it.

    #2
    - there is nothing special about it - basically a palmers style valve pin


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      #3
      I'm not real familiar with the palmer's valve. Is it just a stepped valve pin so it cannot go further than needed into the valve body? All my current valves pins are same diameter throughout.
      Thanks

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        #4
        Kingman buzzword snake oil. Nothing more.

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          #5
          The middle of the pin is narrower so air can get to the bolt faster, and instead of flats on the back, there's a small hole next to the pin for blowback gas.

          It's a better design, but it's not revolutionary. It's still a Spyder valve. Not like a VS2 balanced valve.
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            #6
            The middle of the pin is narrower so air can get to the bolt faster, and instead of flats on the back, there's a small hole next to the pin for blowback gas.

            It's a better design, but it's not revolutionary. It's still a Spyder valve. Not like a VS2 balanced valve.
            Feedback
            www.PhrameworkDesigns.com < Nelspot sears and triggers back in stock! Also Sterling feeds, Empire feedneck adapters, and some upcoming projects.

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              #7
              Originally posted by flyweightnate View Post
              The middle of the pin is narrower so air can get to the bolt faster, and instead of flats on the back, there's a small hole next to the pin for blowback gas.

              It's a better design, but it's not revolutionary. It's still a Spyder valve. Not like a VS2 balanced valve.
              It's a bit of a throwback to the original VM-68 valves, where there's a dedicated port for blowback gasses rather than an open flat through the back.

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              Originally posted by Ecapnation View Post
              Kingman buzzword snake oil. Nothing more.
              I can't find the old PBNation threads anymore, but I distinctly remember the community conclusion being that the big efficiency gains with the Eko valve weren't illusory, and that the ~1600 shots per 20oz claims Kingman were making were, if anything, a little conservative.
              Last edited by The Inflicted; 06-18-2023, 08:05 PM.

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                #8
                Very interesting, thanks for the insight!

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                  #9
                  The efficiency gains have more to do with the face at the rear of the valve pin being pressed on by the gas pulse when the valve is open, creating additional force to close the valve; faster closing valve -> less gas wasted. Indeed, nothing revolutionary, but an improvement over the usual < 2k9 setup.

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