98 Custom Low Pressure Kit, Cyclone, and Response Trigger

[FlightMedic938]

I just picked up a low pressure kit for my old (non ACT) 98 custom which has an RT and Cyclone. It should be here Monday. Thing is, after watching a bunch of install videos on YouTube I can’t find out if the low pressure kit is compatible with the RT and Cyclone.

Is there a spot on the new low pressure valve for the RT to screw in to? Will it provide enough pressure to power the RT and the Cyclone? I bought a new CP V2 reg with gauge adapter and a reg gauge. I planned on running it at 400psi (maybe 450psi?)

Any help or education will be greatly appreciated!!

[Ecapnation]

The rt screws into the power tube body which the valve sits in... Those should be interchangeable

[FlightMedic938]

The rt screws into the power tube body which the valve sits in... Those should be interchangeable

Do you think I will have to tap the new power tube body from the low pressure kit for the RT?

[Toestr]

The powertube is the same between high and low pressure, it's the valve that changes. So long as one of the powertubes you have is tapped you're golden.

[FlightMedic938]

Thanks guys! If the low pressure power tube isn’t tapped I’ll remove it from the vertical adapter, remove the low pressure valve from the power tube, and then put the low pressure valve in my existing tapped power tube. Sounds easy, I can’t wait to mess it up lol

[Trbo323]

Honestly I would not recommend the lp kit, pretty much ever and especially not with the RT and cyclone. The RT and cyclone were designed to run on hp and the marker itself for that matter. They always seem to have more problems with the lp kit than before and it doesn't really do anything for the performance of the marker. If you want to save air run a RVA (rear velocity adjustor) because that will actually affect the valve dwell and you can cut down the amount of unused air going down the barrel

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[FlightMedic938]

Honestly I would not recommend the lp kit, pretty much ever and especially not with the RT and cyclone. The RT and cyclone were designed to run on hp and the marker itself for that matter. They always seem to have more problems with the lp kit than before and it doesn't really do anything for the performance of the marker. If you want to save air run a RVA (rear velocity adjustor) because that will actually affect the valve dwell and you can cut down the amount of unused air going down the barrel

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I’m currently running it with a Ninja SHP reg (1100psi?) and it works great. Im bored and I just want to see how it’ll perform. Hopefully it’s an improvement. If I don’t like it I’ll remove it and I’ll pick up an ACT. Ill drop the lpk, and an E trigger I have, in it

[Trbo323]

I'm currently running it with a Ninja SHP reg (1100psi?) and it works great.

This doesn't do anything for you though since you are regulating it down for the lp kit.

I'm not saying it can't work just that they always seem to have more trouble since the marker is being forced to operate outside of what it was designed to do, then you are removing more air for the cyclone and RT

Tippmanns use way more air than the base design really needs but the problem is they still need a decent amount of air to push back the hammer because it's so heavy. Since you are not changing the body shells the volume of air stays the same but the pressure drops which results in less force on the hammer to reset the system.

The lp kit, RT and cyclone all cut into that margin of extra air and before you know it you find a day where the conditions make it so the RT seems less effective or the cyclone is missing shots, maybe the marker is shooting twice here and there because the hammer is not catching.

Then if you are like a friend of mine from back in the day you go spend more money on more parts all the while thinking the next part will fix it when the real problem is that there are too many aftermarket parts fighting each other.

I'm just saying be careful, sometimes more parts makes for a worse marker not better

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[Magmoormaster]

There is a low pressure hose kit for RT and cyclones. Basically a larger diameter hose for the two. You'll definitely want to get it, otherwise the cyclone and RT won't work right.

[FlightMedic938]

This doesn't do anything for you though since you are regulating it down for the lp….

True, true. I was just saying that I’m currently running it at SHP, without the low pressure, and it runs great. If the lp makes it run like crap I’ll take it out and build another one using lp the e trigger instead 🙂. I appreciate all the info my friend

[FlightMedic938]

There is a low pressure hose kit for RT and cyclones. Basically a larger diameter hose for the two. You'll definitely want to get it, otherwise the cyclone and RT won't work right.

I can’t find it anywhere. Supposedly these parts come with the A5 lpk and tippmann used to give the parts out for free back in the day. I’m sure I could get creative and find the fittings and hose myself somewhere

[Trbo323]

True, true. I was just saying that I'm currently running it at SHP, without the low pressure, and it runs great. If the lp makes it run like crap I'll take it out and build another one using lp the e trigger instead 🙂. I appreciate all the info my friend

Oh ok, I thought you were running both right now

Question though, why do you want the lp kit? There's no real advantage to running it

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[FlightMedic938]

Oh ok, I thought you were running both right now

Question though, why do you want the lp kit? There's no real advantage to running it

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For science! lol 🙂 Honestly I just want to see what will happen and if I personally notice any improvements

[FlightMedic938]

I got it all installed. The power tube that came with the kit did not have the RT port so I did end up having to swap valves and reuse the old power tube. No leaks and it cycled great. The RT and cyclone are still functional as well. If I had to guess I would say around 8-9bps. This is with a 300psi SLP. When I set up the reg I think 400-500psi will be the sweet spot, hopefully.