What frames will fit/work on a mag

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  • Psycho91
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1248
    • Lexington, SC

    #1

    What frames will fit/work on a mag

    Iv been building a mech cocker and a pump but I really want to build a mag, I know there's alot of frames that fit them my question is which ones fit and which dont, idk for some reason while walking the dog I had the idea of maybe trying a Timmy clamshell on one, haven't seen it done yet
  • Ecapnation
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 4331
    • South Central Long Island

    #2
    I don't think ia Timmy frame is rigid enough to use with out some internal structure..... They and with what they sell for now cost preventative.

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    • superman
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 3379
      • Mount Pleasant, SC

      #3
      I really recommend using a mag specific frame if you are asking this kind of question.
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      • Grendel
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 1980
        • Lexington, SC

        #4
        rawbutter has a lot of experience adapting non-Mag frames to Mags so might be able to give you some idea what is worth going after. A lot of original Autococker/Sniper frames can be adapted to a mag quiet easily especially those that used the early swing trigger based on Sheridan triggers.


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        • Toestr
          Certified Post Whore
          • Jul 2020
          • 2877
          • Poland, Onterrible

          #5
          Frame screw spacing between mags and cockers is identical. The trigger pivot would be in the timing slot. You'd also have to drill the front of the frame for the twist lock if you're going that route.

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          • superman
            superman commented
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            Not all sear slots are wide enough for the sear arm to sit in either.
        • Number six
          (just a number)
          • Nov 2020
          • 297
          • Altus, OK (I'd never heard of it, either)

          #6
          Using an Ion frame is fairly straightforward, if you have a drill press, a 1/8" npt thread tap, and a transfer punch.

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          • loveaboveall
            Long Time First Time
            • Jul 2020
            • 144
            • Pennsylvania

            #7
            I used a 05/06 Ego frame. Keep in mind not all Automag rails are created equal. I believe the older mag rails are not flat but have wings. Luke has some cool mag mods: https://lukescustoms.com/index.html
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            • PlawB
              Bunker Buster
              • May 2021
              • 201

              #8
              I put a dye/PB autococker frame on a mag. All I had to do was dremel the crap out of the interior of the frame and then the trigger itself. Looked like crap.

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              • Psycho91
                MCB Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 1248
                • Lexington, SC

                #9
                It was an idea, I didn't know you had to worry about the twist lock barrel and all that, I thought it might be as simple as dremeling out a frame and drilling a hole or 2

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                • Jordan
                  I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 3508
                  • Southern Ontario, Canada

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Psycho91
                  It was an idea, I didn't know you had to worry about the twist lock barrel and all that, I thought it might be as simple as dremeling out a frame and drilling a hole or 2
                  If you have a ULE body, they don't use a twistlock pin.

                  It's really not simple - the trigger/rod interaction seems uncomplicated until you change geometry and then suddenly you have a gun that doesn’t shoot consistently and reliably.

                  Mags are not tinker friendly despite how simple they appear.

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                  • PlawB
                    Bunker Buster
                    • May 2021
                    • 201

                    #11
                    I agree with Jordan about the reliability aspect. On my dremeled dye frame it just... it shot but it was a little off. I can't describe what it was but it wasn't the same old reliable mag shot I was used to.

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                    • loveaboveall
                      Long Time First Time
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 144
                      • Pennsylvania

                      #12
                      Originally posted by Jordan

                      If you have a ULE body, they don't use a twistlock pin.

                      It's really not simple - the trigger/rod interaction seems uncomplicated until you change geometry and then suddenly you have a gun that doesn’t shoot consistently and reliably.

                      Mags are not tinker friendly despite how simple they appear.
                      This might be why mag tinkers go the pnuemag route. Shoots just as fast as an electro minus the battery or eyes. With LVL 10 bolt and plenty air you don't need eyes. There are some hoops to dunk but otherwise pretty easy. A few members on AO sell Kits. I'd be happy to share more of my experience if you'd like.
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                      • Jordan
                        I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 3508
                        • Southern Ontario, Canada

                        #13
                        Originally posted by loveaboveall

                        This might be why mag tinkers go the pnuemag route. Shoots just as fast as an electro minus the battery or eyes. With LVL 10 bolt and plenty air you don't need eyes. There are some hoops to dunk but otherwise pretty easy. A few members on AO sell Kits. I'd be happy to share more of my experience if you'd like.
                        Probably... once you eliminate the trigger/sear interaction you open up a lot of frame options.

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                        • superman
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                          Ya and then start the posts about troubleshooting.

                        • Jordan
                          Jordan commented
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                          superman so true.
                      • Psycho91
                        MCB Member
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 1248
                        • Lexington, SC

                        #14
                        No pneumag I don't want that headache, thanks guys looks like I'll just stick with mag specific stuff

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