Scba tank adapters

[2gawddsm]

Hey everyone, I've slowly been working on getting our outlaw field setup. I picked up a GX CS4 compressor several months ago and the compressor works well. But depending on the amount of players we have it may not keep up. So my idea was to find some scuba tanks to fill a few days before hand to keep players on the field. Well today a guy 15 minutes from me posted some 4500psi scba tanks on the fb marketplace. He gave me a deal on 11 of them. He said I could take the rest (5 more or so) but I said I probably didn't need them and it may help out someone else. Now I'm looking for adapters to fill the scuba tanks from the cs4, I assume this:

https://airtanksplus.com/product/one-way-paintball-quick-connect-to-cga-347-scba-adapter-with-bleed-valve/

and then another from scuba tank directly to the paintball quick disconnect, i assume this:

https://airtanksplus.com/product/cascademan/

Even though that says cascade, it appears to have the right fittings? Trying to confirm this with people who know before I spend money on it.

I have attached the pictures of the bottles and valve

[jetenginekyle]

Hate to be bearer of bad news but these tanks appear to be past their hydro life. Carbon tanks are only rated to last 15 years




If one of them goes it'll be a literal explosion that would kill anybody unlucky enough to be nearby. The photo below is just a regular paintball tank imagine something at least 5x the amount of energy stored in this bottle.

[Pumpytrilly1]

Unfortunately those are all old firefighter air tanks. Well past hydro life so I wouldn't use them.

Also be careful when looking at scuba tanks. There is some brand maybe luxfer? That can't be hydroed because of the aluminum used.

[2gawddsm]

Yep all of these of a born date of 2005 and I was aware of this. The danger is filling the tanks. They won't rupture just sitting here idle or consuming from them. All but two tanks are completely full. So I would like to atleast utilize the air out of them, for the price I got them for it's still worth it for that.

The luxfer aluminum tanks that is mentioned is tanks manufactured from 71-88 using 6351 aluminum. Which none of these are that.

[Tarsun2]

i get my tanks filled and hydro'o at a local fire safety shop. they also fill medical tanks and whatnot.
well, they were swamped one month and were trying to get as many tanks out as possible. a smaller air tank than the ones ya got there was filled outside the blast chamber (since both chambers were in use, they were filling free standing tanks).
it was overfilled and the reg malfunctioned. the tank burst. Of the two guys there, one lost both legs and passed away. the other lost one leg and some of the other. he took his life shortly after.
it blew out the windows in the facility, set off car alarms blocks away and damaged the windows at the neighboring houses.
the business had to completely gut the interior because there was so much "biologic material" everywhere. floors, walls, ceiling, it was everywhere. their legs wernt just destroyed; they were essentially vaporized.

compressed HPA tanks are no joke and thats a HUGE liability if something happens.
how much are the adapters going to cost? hoses and tubing? gauge setup? plus the cost of the tanks?
then what are you going to do with the empty tanks? ive had issues scrapping old tanks. the yards i spoke with wanted a baseball size hole in every tank. will they even accept carbon tanks?

[Trbo323]

Even if it were safe to do, you would need to swap out the valve on top of each tank so you would lose all the air in the full ones anyway.

They're dead, set them up to be targets at the Chrono station.

I'm not trying to rub salt in with this but this is why you need to do research before buying rather than after



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[Grendel]

I am not going to try and convince you this is good or bad just responding to the core question, here is a link to SCBA adapter for paintball (they are not cheap):

https://www.safeairsystems.com/all-products/fittings-and-accessories/paintball-fill-adapters

[2gawddsm]

Which valves do I need to look for when buying a scuba tank if these are not the right ones for filling hpa paintball tanks?

[Grendel]

There are adapters for all of the different used on scuba tanks but here is a primer on scuba tanks/valves:

https://www.scuba.com/blog/a-beginners-guide-to-scuba-valves/

[Trbo323]

Which valves do I need to look for when buying a scuba tank if these are not the right ones for filling hpa paintball tanks?

Standard scuba yoke like this


From there you get a fill adaptor like this


With or without the short whip (without wastes less air) and that's all you need

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[rawbutter]

I agree with everyone else. Please don't use those SCBA tanks. I know some firefighters use outdated tanks as training devices (they wear it strapped to their gear so they can get used to the weight), but otherwise they're useless.

If you want to get something for your outlaw field, SCUBA tanks are certainly a better option. Most of the cheapest scuba tanks are only 80 cubic feet and they only go up to about 2200-2400 psi, which isn't ideal...although if you're all shooting Emeks or something else that's high efficiency, you might be able to get by, especially if you have more than one. But if you're willing to spend a little more, you can get larger tanks with higher psi ratings. There are a bunch of options here, like the 133 tank that goes up to 3400 psi.

https://www.scuba.com/p-fbrhp100g/xs-scuba-faber-high-pressure-steel-tank-100-cf-12-9l?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwzIK1BhAuEiwAHQmU3uLg pAkLBrctQslqh3S5iJ6B8Nzx5qBKUWaHHOitzQPwmaDFhUUnkh oCF0UQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had a tank like this for a long while. It could handle about 8-10 players at my woodsball field. We had to fill up our tanks after every game after a few hours, but it did the job. The only downside (besides the price, of course) was the weight. Ours weighed about 50 pounds, and carrying that thing from the parking lot to the staging area next to the field was not pleasant.

Two years ago, however, I switched to a PCP carbon fiber tank. The PCP tank is certainly more expensive, but it's about half the weight and holds almost twice the amount of air. It can handle about 15-20 players for a few hours. There are a few different ones out there, but this one comes with a bleed valve and paintball whip included, so you don't need to carry around an adapter.

https://a.co/d/jh9QS6W

I should mention here that we only play hopper ball at my woodsball field, so we're not going through a lot of air. Most players shoot less than 500 rounds per day. So if you're shooting more, you might need more than one tank.

Also....if you're the one investing in the compressor and tanks, I would suggest charging your friends a small fill fee. I charge for air at my field....$5 for regulars and $10 for renters. That's for the whole day. No one has ever complained about that. Getting tanks filled elsewhere is a pain in the butt, and if you explain that all the money is going into the upkeep for the tanks, no one will have a problem with it.

[rawbutter]

If you do buy that PCP tank, I recommend getting this tripod case as well. It fits very nicely.

https://a.co/d/9xsc6zu

[2gawddsm]

I really appreciate the info, such a tremendous help. I am looking at that pcp tank. 15-20 guys max would be it for us. And I agree I should charge a little for the air. I imagine that the gx4 compressor will not last me forever and I should probably save up for a bigger compressor. Do you think Emeks are the best bang for the buck as far as a "rental" goes? I have been upkeeping older spyders but something more efficient and give the players a bit better experience would be really nice...

[Tarsun2]

spyders as rentals? modified DSM? Are you a glutton for punishment? lol
either that are you reallly like tinkering.

that being said, i let a budy of mine use a stock spyder TS and a gravity feed hopper. He had a blast. absolutely loved it and didnt have a single break.
the "newer" spyders are super simple to work on and maintain.

[Trbo323]

If you are buying stuff, I say Azodin. The kaos is even simpler than a spyder. On the used market they can be had for around $60.

Emeks are great but unless you are made of money putting together a rental fleet of them is going to be really expensive

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