Spyder non threaded volumizer?

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  • Magmoormaster
    Only here for the zipline
    • Jul 2020
    • 1294
    • Glendale, AZ

    #1

    Spyder non threaded volumizer?

    So I've been kicking around the idea of doing a simple Spyder build for a while, and I think I found the body that has the exact features I want, which is the Spyder Aggressor XT. Conveniently enough, I might have the opportunity to snag one. That said, one of the quirks about the Aggressor is that the body is not threaded up front, the front plug mounts the same way a traditional spyder front block does. To my knowledge, it's the only one that does this while also having a 1/8NPT port for the hose (or VASA). I'd like to put a volumizer on it and go low pressure, but to my knowledge all the spyder volumizers are threaded. Am I SOL here? In all fairness, because it doesn't have a front block there's already much more volume in the dump chamber than most spyders, so I might not even need one.
  • BenoitOWN
    Foxy
    • Jul 2020
    • 557
    • Canada

    #2
    One of the home airsmith could make you one.
    Dealer for: Roasted coffee and TechT products.

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    • BenoitOWN
      Foxy
      • Jul 2020
      • 557
      • Canada

      #3
      Or if you have a caliper and someone can measure this guy:
      https://www.azodin.com/Accessories/Zero_System.html
      Dealer for: Roasted coffee and TechT products.

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      • pghp8ntballer
        Just a Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 503
        • Pittsburgh

        #4
        You also need to keep in mind that Aggressor front plug has a post on it for the valve spring. You will need to make sure the custom LPC has a shoulder to hold the spring. You would also have to make sure that locates the spring correctly so you can use a normal spyder (long or short depending on design) valve spring
        My feedback

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        • autococker04
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1853
          • Pittsburgh

          #5
          Could you plug the hole for the hose and put on a standard asa threads accepting front block?
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          https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...ker04-feedback

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          • Surf2Live
            Surf2Live commented
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            Yes. Exactly this.
        • scottieb
          Member since 2004
          • Jul 2020
          • 3948
          • Lincoln, Nebraska

          #6
          I've thought of something like this before. Kit makes a horizontal adapter that you could use for this scenario. Get a gas through grip or the like and use it, plugged, in the horizontal adapter. Run your air line or VA in the factory air line location.
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          • Magmoormaster
            Only here for the zipline
            • Jul 2020
            • 1294
            • Glendale, AZ

            #7
            Originally posted by autococker04
            Could you plug the hole for the hose and put on a standard asa threads accepting front block?
            That defies the whole point of using the aggressor body. I want to not have a front block.

            Originally posted by BenoitOWN
            Or if you have a caliper and someone can measure this guy:
            Ooh, that's not a bad idea at all. The store has a first gen Zenith that's had parts pulled off of it, I could easily take the Zero kit off and see if it works.

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            • scottieb
              Member since 2004
              • Jul 2020
              • 3948
              • Lincoln, Nebraska

              #8
              Originally posted by Magmoormaster
              I want to not have a front block.
              I completely missed that part.
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              • pghp8ntballer
                Just a Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 503
                • Pittsburgh

                #9
                That zero kit would be a great idea! Curious if it’s a drop in kit for a spyder (or minor mod-to-fit like the VS valve mods).

                OR you could get a one-off ridiculously long custom LPC made. Like one that is the same length as the barrel... you know, because MCB.
                My feedback

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                • Tarsun2
                  Certified Post Whore
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1015

                  #10
                  if your going to go through all this work, make it special.
                  Remove the treads on a neo power valve and make that work.

                  no front block.
                  and adjustable for low pressure.

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                  • Tarsun2
                    Certified Post Whore
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1015

                    #11
                    or leave the stock cap, thread a hole in the front of it for a small barb fitting and run a small line to a little expansion tank that mounts to the side of the bottom tube. like a 12g co2 tank.

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                    • Magmoormaster
                      Only here for the zipline
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1294
                      • Glendale, AZ

                      #12
                      Originally posted by scottieb

                      I completely missed that part.
                      In fairness I didn't say that specifically. The aggressor is both vert feed and doesn't have a front block, and to my knowledge is the only older spyder body like that. That's the reason I want to use it. I'm going to try and track down one of those flush cocking bolts that the Javas had so I can ditch the beavertail, and get a Bob Long single trigger frame. I'd like to run it on low/mid pressure, hence the thread, but like I said with the lack of a front block it might already have enough volume.

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                      • Cunha
                        Certified Post Whore
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 2027

                        #13
                        Consider trying it without the volumizer first?

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                        • Magmoormaster
                          Only here for the zipline
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 1294
                          • Glendale, AZ

                          #14
                          Certainly worth trying

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                          • scottieb
                            Member since 2004
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 3948
                            • Lincoln, Nebraska

                            #15
                            Look for Spyder 2000's, not Compact 2000's, for the flush cocking bolts.
                            Last edited by scottieb; 01-24-2021, 08:33 PM.
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                            • pghp8ntballer
                              pghp8ntballer commented
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                              NW paintball also made a rear/flush cocking adapter

                            • scottieb
                              scottieb commented
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                              Yep. I've one on a Flash and another build and they're great. A little less flush than the Kingman variety.
                              Last edited by scottieb; 01-22-2021, 08:43 PM.
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