How do hoseless BL HPRs work?

[Spaghetti Overdrive]

Trying to wrap my head around this for a thought experiment/personal design idea.

How the hell does the 360 that comes on victories and G6rs work considering it's just a typical threaded/screw in reg with what looks like no specific routing of gases through it?

I feel like I'm missing something obvious like some kind of air channel through the center that then flows down the middle and up around it or something like that. I get the point of the Schrader valve preventing backflow. But it just doesn't click for me??

[Spaghetti Overdrive]

For context, the thinking is around gas through cocker frames that can utilize "standard" HPRs and the fact that BL 360s are plentiful, easy/cheap to produce, look and feel great, and have performance comparable to a sidewinder/2liter/SL3.

[shocker_monkey]

The bottom of the body has two holes. A smaller one on the perimeter and a larger one in the center. I think the smaller is the air path coming through the body from the frame. The center one going to the valve.



The bottom of the top reg section is separated into a ring of holes around a central one. The center one has a schrader valve in it (removed in the pic)


The top of the top reg section has an oring separating the air paths to inlet and outlet. I'm not 100% sure though which is which. Considering where the body holes are I'm guessing the outside is inlet, and then the center is the outlet going up to the valve.

So air goes down on the outside portion into the reg, where it gets regulated and through the Schrader valve into the central portion of the reg and back into the gun.

[shocker_monkey]

All of this is speculation just looking at how it gets disassembled. I don't even completely understand how regulators work in the first place.

[Buff_phroggie]

https://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/animations.html

Near the bottom there are several different regulator animations.

[Trbo323]

https://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/animations.html

Near the bottom there are several different regulator animations.

All the animations are based around macro line regs, he is wondering about the gas routing not the base design

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[Buff_phroggie]

Well they all fuction more or less the same, and the routing is different. He also said he doeant fully understand a cocker reg in a comment.

[tyronejk]

This animation is 90% the same as the hoseless Bob Long regs, except that the outlet is the inner channel shocker_monkey posted above and the inlet is the outer ring channel (I'm also not 100% sure, could be flipped).

It's almost the same as all LPRs on stacked tube poppets, which are kinda like hoseless regs on their sides.

[shocker_monkey]

Oh yeah, that's a great point about LPRs.

[Spaghetti Overdrive]

Thank you guys for the diagrams and images - it's helped things click a lot!