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  • FredMnkyDad10
    MCB Member
    • Apr 2021
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    #1

    Landshark

    Ok MCB. Picked up a few things locally. This was in the bundle. Only thing I could find online was an article from dan@paintballhistory.

    From that looks like this was similar to the PMI Tracer, ACI Mavericks, few others and from 1990. Seems that the Landshark is a bit more rare than the others.

    Anyone have more info on these to share. And what is worth.
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  • Carp
    enter over there..☝
    • Jul 2020
    • 4948
    • ....on the 13th floor!

    #2
    Yeah, VintageRex is pretty much minimal info and no current pictures. But, it is listed under AGS-Adventure Game Supply

    Landshark


    Manufacturer: AGS - Adventure Game Supply
    Year: 1990



    Specifications

    Action: Pump
    Valve Style: Nelson
    Class: Pump
    Caliber: .68
    Feed Type: Direct
    Barrel: Fixed
    Gas Source: 12 Gram / Constant Air
    Nice relatively obscure marker find...👍
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    • FredMnkyDad10
      FredMnkyDad10 commented
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      Barrel:fixed. Does that mean it should be unibody? Like the old phantoms.

      This one is not. The barrel comes off.

    • Carp
      Carp commented
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      Yes...fixed means unibody. Can we get a picture of the barrel threads. I've tried zooming-in on your pictures. I can't tell where the body stops and the barrel starts. All I see is where the pump stoke wear is.
  • Painthappy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2020
    • 2634
    • New Boston, NH

    #3
    Honestly don't know much about it, but I love it!

    Standard Winter style frame from the day, bushmaster style pump, longer pump arm than I would have thought, cool laser engraved sight. Unibody for sure, really cool old school type gun. Definitely dig it.
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    • FredMnkyDad10
      MCB Member
      • Apr 2021
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      #4
      Let me know if you want closer pictures of anything or better pictures.
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      • Carp
        Carp commented
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        Thank you good Sir! Now I'm just trying to figure out what the threads are...F1 or Angel look the closest that I can tell. Is it too much to ask for another pic with a ruler?....😁

        https://www.docsmachine.com/tech/barrelguide.html

      • Carp
        Carp commented
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        I half expected it to be a weird hybrid non-threaded/grip frame screw retention system or something of the like. You might need to do some glamour shots(of the marker) to add them to VintageRex.
    • capitalpaintball
      Bunker Buster
      • Jul 2020
      • 309
      • Coventry, Rhode Island

      #5
      Could be Taso threads, since they more than likely made the gun for ags.

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      • Carp
        Carp commented
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        Your probably right. Just found this Taso threaded Scorpion barrel on Bacci's site.

    • scottieb
      Member since 2004
      • Jul 2020
      • 4194
      • Lincoln, Nebraska

      #6
      What long pump arms you have Landshark!

      And the logo is really neat.
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      • Ecapnation
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 4332
        • South Central Long Island

        #7
        Nice glad an mcb guy grabbed that....

        Basically it's a very obscure late near end stage nelson

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        • Grendel
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1980
          • Lexington, SC

          #8
          Wintec Slider frames are my favorite frame on a Nelson Clone. Could use some cleaning up but given it already has a removable barrel this is a great candidate for modernizing. I would expect the barrel ID is somewhere north of 0.690 so having it Freak bored is fairly obvious. Given those long pump arms there will be room below to potentially install a ball detent for prevention of double feeds or as I have done on one of my old LAPCOs installed a wire detent above the pump are along the driver sides of the body. It has an AR style grip attachment which opens it up for all sorts of different grips tailored to your preference. Barrel is not turned down to do a hidden pump return spring but that would be simple to have done while getting the barrel Freak bored. As others have said a cool piece. You could restore it for historical value or you could modify it to bring it up to current "standards". I expect under the Hockey tape there are stripped out screws but doing inserts is an easy fix.

          Value, if it is cleaned up and working it will top out at $150 but you might wait quite a while for a buyer. In current state $75, and fully modded out $400 potentially.

          I would keep it and build it up into a modern open class Nelson Clone (I like to play with my markers not really into collecting wall hangers). If you get interested in liquidating give me a howler. I could add it to my menagerie of partially completed or not started projects.
          Last edited by Grendel; 08-25-2023, 10:27 AM.


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          • Morgenstern
            Bunker Buster
            • Jan 2021
            • 173

            #9
            Oh wow! I’ll update the fishy name gun thread

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            • Grendel
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 1980
              • Lexington, SC

              #10
              Originally posted by FredMnkyDad10
              Let me know if you want closer pictures of anything or better pictures.
              Pull those guts and let us get a good look at what is inside!


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              • Chappy
                Overmoderator
                • Jul 2020
                • 1300

                #11
                Candygram!

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                • FredMnkyDad10
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                  • Apr 2021
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                  #12
                  Originally posted by Ecapnation
                  Nice glad an mcb guy grabbed that....

                  Basically it's a very obscure late near end stage nelson
                  Were you one of the ppl that msg the guy about the posting. He had said he was getting tons of replies.
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                  • Ecapnation
                    Ecapnation commented
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                    No, I'm betting Bacci was though. They are vere obscure guns. I'm not really much of a nelson fan and I mostly only collect wgp stuff or things still in their boxes now.
                • FredMnkyDad10
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                  • Apr 2021
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                  #13
                  Originally posted by Grendel

                  Pull those guts and let us get a good look at what is inside!
                  I hope to do that this weekend. Yeah she needs a good rebuild/cleaning. Will likely give it a good WD40 soaking.

                  Who did you did you get to do the freak boring and detent.

                  Do you think doing that will take away from this being 1990 era.
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                  • Walker
                    Walker commented
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                    This ^^^^^^^^^^^

                  • Grendel
                    Grendel commented
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                    ahhh, its a paintball gun, it is meant to be used modify away. I see no purpose in wall hangers but that is me. Restored it could be used but with the small ass paint would be more frustration at the field the it is worth I am guessing. Because this is a less common old school marker is the only reason I would want it and then modify it. I have modern markers, a modified old school marker has more meaning and interest for me.

                    Freak Boring - BMC Fabrication - https://www.bmcfabricationservice.com/ He even modified a LAPCO Grey Ghost not too long ago to cut down a uni-body marker make an A/C thread barrel out of what was cut off [and did an excellent job]. I am sure you could get him to turn down the barrel to allow room for a pump spring Then you would still have to make an insert for the pump handle and come up with or make a over the barrel spring. For the wire detent I milled it myself with a manual mill at work. I have not done a ball detent to date and it would not have to be a ball it could be a Spyder or PE detent but those you would have to figure out a retainer.

                  • FredMnkyDad10
                    FredMnkyDad10 commented
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                    Yeah I was leaning towards keeping it the way it is.
                • bacci paintball
                  MCB Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 105

                  #14
                  Great find. This one is like an earlier example since it has the wintec frame and the aluminum pump, similar to what David Craig (AGS) was using on his Bloodsuckers after AGS and Taso Split. You can see in this article the advertised style:
                  https://paintballhistory.com/david-craig-landshark/

                  Mine has different threads and the delrin pump as well as the WWP spec frame and valve body. I'm missing the sight rail though.

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                  • FredMnkyDad10
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                    • Apr 2021
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                    #15
                    Originally posted by bacci paintball
                    Great find. This one is like an earlier example since it has the wintec frame and the aluminum pump, similar to what David Craig (AGS) was using on his Bloodsuckers after AGS and Taso Split. You can see in this article the advertised style:
                    https://paintballhistory.com/david-craig-landshark/

                    Mine has different threads and the delrin pump as well as the WWP spec frame and valve body. I'm missing the sight rail though.
                    Yeah that is the same article I came across. That handle is not delrin, freaking heavy and solid for sure. Can knock out someone with it.

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