Pump tournament interest?

[Jonnydread]

In a rare shift of events I am fully serious.

[martix_agent]

Absolutely in. I’m open to discussion, but I would like to have A/T outlawed, IMO it’s not in the spirit of pump play.

100% Mech play has been tainted by the rate of fire race, don't let that also happen to pump play.

[SignOfZeta]

What in the world are you guys talking about? They don’t even make guns without auto trigger aside from Azodin. Are you going to ban all Trracers, Phantoms, Sterlings, and Carters while clipping everyone’s AT levers on snipers or are you just going to film it all at high speed and disqualify them later F1 style? Is it just for DIY guns that you couldn’t get the AT working on? I have a really nice sniper like that so I can for sure play.

But if you want to play stock, play stock. Inventing a new class, “No AT pump” class, isn’t going to increase your turnout. Fragmenting scenes doesn’t make them bigger it makes them smaller.

[ChuckLove]

We're talking about use of the auto trigger. Similar to how you can shoot an electro gun on semi or set it to NXL mode. We would strongly prefer players not use the auto trigger despite their guns ability to do so.

[Jonnydread]

What in the world are you guys talking about?

Well, sunshine, let me explain: I would like to see A/T outlawed so people CAN use Trracers, Phantoms and the ilk. A/Ting with Nelsons is a great way to miss the broad side of the barn, whereas (like ChuckLove mentions above) Sheridan style A/T allows for controlled BPS that is comparable to mechanical play. If I wanted to play in a mechanical tournament I would do that.

As for how to regulate it? Simple, we don't. We list the rules and let the referees do their job.

I would rather fragment the scene and have a few less bodies on the rotation and have the tournament stick to the roots of pump - snapshooting, aggressive moves, sneaky-ness, etc. than play with folks who lean into laning with their autotriggers and make the game more about volume rather than precision. If we play by our standards (and clearly have a blast doing it) then other's interest will be piqued and we will gain momentum. If we play a certain way just to appease the agglets then why even do it in the first place? Even if you get more of the "grey area" players you will lose a good chunk of the limited paint players.

You may be surprised by how many minds you can change with leading by example. There have been quite a few speedball freaks who have started playing stock class events because they see how much fun we're having, I reckon we could do something similar with this.

[RAZRBAKK]

I swear you react this way every time someone suggests no AT.

[Shaftski]

we restrict AT use at Slim's events and it's never been a problem. TONS of AT equipped markers out there and people are good boys and girls and simply don't use it cause the rules say not to.

[RiceBall2143!]

I’m 100% in talked about it for awhile

[packersrule729]

AT or not, we should probably get a mod to move this to the Northeast regional section, so we can keep the topic of conversation more focused on the actual pump tournament at AG and not this discourse.

[NONOBLITUS]

Geez man why are you always so negative and submit insults ? Paintball is actually pretty fun

[Melrosejedi]

I would definitely be interested in playing. I personally don’t care about the a/t being present. I have played against them in pump games and saw no advantage.most stock guys play electros on any given open day at a local field. I personally think auto triggering decreases accuracy,and the guys I have played against only need one shot usually for an elimination.I will play regardless of rules ,if I can make it, and thanks for asking about this proposal Corey.

[Carp]

*poof*....wish granted


Edit....My magic is a little wonky sometimes. I turned all the comments into posts. 🤦♂️

[SignOfZeta]

Apparently you guys have so many pumpers in your area that you experience problems I’ve never experienced since I’m usually the only pumper out there. For me AT is more of a sound effect as I rarely ever hit anyone with it. I’ve actually hit someone with it maybe 20 times in 30 years of play and I’m %100 sure I’ve never been hit by anyone else’s AT barrage.

Comparing to mech is quite silly as accuracy during ATing, even on the smoothest of guns, is very hard to achieve, and the ROF hard to get above maybe 6bps. Even a Walmart Spyder clone has more rain making ability.

[SignOfZeta]

Geez man why are you always so negative and submit insults ? Paintball is actually pretty fun

Was that aimed at me?

The answer is I’m not, I’m just being dog piled on by a clique that you are part of which taints your perception. I submitted no insults that I can see reviewing my post. Asking if someone is joking is not an insult. You just don’t like what I’m saying so you confuse it as one. “You are stupid for not allowing auto trigger.” Is an insult. “Why are you always so negative” is more of a grey area unless it becomes extremely repetitive which is certainly is from some people who INSIST on relentless positivity on certain key subjects.

Overall…I see what you guys are getting at. When you have enough pump players around where you can make up your own local rules and still get people naturally you will. It’s impossible to even get a single game of 5 on 5 of anything not semi in my area so I knew nothing of your situation. It sounds like heaven.

[Jonnydread]

I dig man, we can only speak from our own experiences. We in the northeast are fortunate to have a very healthy pump player group across a bunch of different fields so we can be a bit more particular. If you ever make it out this way give us a shout, we play just about every weekend and would be happy to have you join us!

[Riot]

Jokes aside, in a tournament format, as legitimate as HeavyC is looking to make it, my fear is to say “No A/T” is going to be a lot more difficult for a ref to call out mid-game. I understand we do this in all of our other pump events, but those all have a more casual feel than a “tournament.”

With that said, I’m discussing logistics and rules with Corey privately, and I also talk regularly to Jonnydread and Chuck E Ducky for all of my paintball questions, as I trust their judgement most in this department.

And by “serious,” I don’t mean he’s looking to take the fun out of it, I just mean tournament vs casual. So don’t read too much into my phrasing.

With all of that said, this thread was looking to gage interest (not another AT debate) and it seems as though there is some.

[ChuckLove]

Pump it up! (The tournament that is 😏)

[Riot]

ChuckLove - I think I’d be “Pump Up The Volume”