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  • Criticalhammer
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    • Dec 2020
    • 294

    #1

    Empire Relay On/Off ASA regulator

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    Does anyone have experience using one of these? I imagine this would be a great pneumag regulator. I think it came out in 2010 so its very possible the ones in stock now will need rebuilding, just from sitting on a shelf.
  • Toestr
    Certified Post Whore
    • Jul 2020
    • 2877
    • Poland, Onterrible

    #2
    Never done anything with these, but a cocker LPR off the top would be good. You'd need to figure out some sort of unregged output from the ASA though.

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    • Olsson
      The Swedish Chef
      • Jul 2020
      • 679
      • Gothenburg, Sweden

      #3
      The main reason you don't see this ASA in a pneumag build is that you don't have an outlet for the unregulated tank pressure. While it might be a clever solution to a hidden LPR build through the frame, if you look at the gauge, it only goes to 300 PSI. Not really suitable for an Automag valve.
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      • Criticalhammer
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        • Dec 2020
        • 294

        #4
        Originally posted by Olsson
        The main reason you don't see this ASA in a pneumag build is that you don't have an outlet for the unregulated tank pressure. While it might be a clever solution to a hidden LPR build through the frame, if you look at the gauge, it only goes to 300 PSI. Not really suitable for an Automag valve.
        You can put a 1/2 inch ASA adapter on the back like https://palmerspursuit.com/collectio...tank-extension

        Granted people with longer arms would benefit over people with shorter arms.

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        • Olsson
          The Swedish Chef
          • Jul 2020
          • 679
          • Gothenburg, Sweden

          #5
          Originally posted by Criticalhammer

          You can put a 1/2 inch ASA adapter on the back like https://palmerspursuit.com/collectio...tank-extension

          Granted people with longer arms would benefit over people with shorter arms.
          Nobody likes a smart ass, sonny Jim. That was way too clever for my liking. So clever that it may actually work, in fact.
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          • rawbutter
            rawbutter commented
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            I think he's onto something there. Besides the ASA extender adapter thing, I can't think of another way to make this work.

          • BrickHaus
            BrickHaus commented
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            I us a similar device to carry air to an undermounted law. Though for a dedicated pneu mag set up, I dont see it being worth it.
        • Spec
          Harbinger the void
          • Jul 2020
          • 162
          • Alaska

          #6
          Buy a batch of main seals, same as the Vanquish regs. Will need a 3mm nut driver and cut a slot in a wide flat headed screw driver or other piece of metal for tools. After that, they are easy to rebuild.
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          • rawbutter
            trophy husband
            • Jul 2020
            • 562
            • Fredericksburg, VA

            #7
            I've never seen on of these in person before. What does the passenger side look like? Is there enough meat on that side to add a second air port and tap that directly into where the tank threads in?
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            Let me make you something. I build pneumags, auto-response frames, and wooden pill cases.

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            • MrKittyCatMeowFace
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 2386

              #8
              Is this the same reg on the older mini and axe?

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              • Secretweaponevan
                Rockin and Cockin
                • Jul 2020
                • 42

                #9
                Originally posted by Criticalhammer
                Click image for larger version Name:	10545.jpg Views:	0 Size:	46.2 KB ID:	181646

                Does anyone have experience using one of these? I imagine this would be a great pneumag regulator. I think it came out in 2010 so its very possible the ones in stock now will need rebuilding, just from sitting on a shelf.
                I have one that Simon gave me to beta test.
                If you need pictures or anything, let me know.
                It has a unique mounting system.

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                • Macdave06
                  Tinkerer
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1371
                  • Vacaville, CA

                  #10
                  Originally posted by rawbutter
                  I've never seen on of these in person before. What does the passenger side look like? Is there enough meat on that side to add a second air port and tap that directly into where the tank threads in?
                  Unless they've changed something after the one I have, it has a overpressure vent on the opposite side. I modified one to use as a bottom line reg by plugging the output and drilling the hole out in the vent port. It's already 1/8npt threaded.

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                  • Criticalhammer
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                    • Dec 2020
                    • 294

                    #11
                    I think this would work...

                    https://www.hustlepaintball.com/Tech...p/32230101.htm
                     

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                    • Brokeass_baller
                      Pick it up!
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1129
                      • Ohio

                      #12
                      I have one on an internal air eNMEy. I can snap photos of anybody wants.
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                      • Criticalhammer
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                        • Dec 2020
                        • 294

                        #13
                        Originally posted by Brokeass_baller
                        I have one on an internal air eNMEy. I can snap photos of anybody wants.
                        By any chance do you have a tape measure and/or calipers? I think its possible to mill out and mount this onto a Y grip frame. That way the extension of the asa adapter is offset by the drop forward effect of the Y grip.

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                        • Criticalhammer
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                          • Dec 2020
                          • 294

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Macdave06
                          Unless they've changed something after the one I have, it has a overpressure vent on the opposite side. I modified one to use as a bottom line reg by plugging the output and drilling the hole out in the vent port. It's already 1/8npt threaded.

                          Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk
                          By any chance do you have pictures of this mod?

                          Being able to dual feed low and high pressure off the regulated ASA is ideal.

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