"window" on the lower tube?

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  • XEMON
    Frenchy is here!
    • Jul 2020
    • 3029
    • Nor Cal

    #1

    "window" on the lower tube?

    Hi MCB,

    I've seen a few cocker with "window" on the lower tube, and trying to decide if I should go ahead and drill my cocker build ...
    Is there any problem with making a few of them, other than debris getting in?

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    Does anyone have dimensions/spec. for how big the opening can be?
    Or pictures of a working model?

    Basically any help/advise/sample are appreciated
    ​thanks in advance,
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  • Magmoormaster
    Only here for the zipline
    • Jul 2020
    • 1294
    • Glendale, AZ

    #2
    I've never owned a cocker with windows in the bottom tube, or modified one to have them, but to my knowledge there are no problems with doing so, other than what you mentioned (debris).

    As far as size is concerned, it really depends on the orientation of your opening. I think a vertical slot could cause problems unless they're pretty narrow, since theoretically the hammer could rotate a bit and get caught on the opening. Horizontal slots would be much more forgiving.

    Kind of thinking out loud here, I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will comment. But I think that, as long as the window doesn't exceed 1/2 of the diameter of the tube in height, you should be fine.

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    • XEMON
      Frenchy is here!
      • Jul 2020
      • 3029
      • Nor Cal

      #3
      Thanks, looking for pictures I only found this.
      im thinking about length wise opening, straight shot on each side ...

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      • stealthfox1
        Newbie
        • Jul 2020
        • 16
        • Germany

        #4
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        • XEMON
          Frenchy is here!
          • Jul 2020
          • 3029
          • Nor Cal

          #5
          Originally posted by stealthfox1
          Work without problem.
          Thanks, exactly what I was looking for 😁
          is it yours?
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          • WORR13
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 369
            • NY

            #6
            also check out the kapp razorbacks, they had lower tube milling

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            • XEMON
              Frenchy is here!
              • Jul 2020
              • 3029
              • Nor Cal

              #7
              Originally posted by WORR13
              also check out the kapp razorbacks, they had lower tube milling
              Thanks, I didn't knew that one ...
              they really did cool stuff:
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              • DavidBoren
                EVIL aficionado
                • Jul 2020
                • 716
                • Portland, Oregon

                #8
                Lots of OG Spyders have horizontal slots in the lower tube...
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                • XEMON
                  Frenchy is here!
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 3029
                  • Nor Cal

                  #9
                  some more KAPP goodness from imon1maybe6 Collection Past & Present

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                  • stealthfox1
                    Newbie
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 16
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Originally posted by XEMON

                    Thanks, exactly what I was looking for 😁
                    is it yours?
                    yes it was mine, sold it a year bevore. never had any problems with paint or else

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                    • lew
                      Devious Dirtbag
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 1035
                      • WY

                      #11
                      I'll be the contrarian: If you're actually going to play with this gun, why would would want those slots? Even if I don't get hit on the marker, all of my guns require a complete wipe down after each day of play. My Cockers might need to have the lower tube parts pulled out every 50k rounds or so with the grease I use. Having a cavity milled out of the sides would make that a more frequent chore, and I'd ask "for what?" Looks? It doesn't look particularly nice, in my opinion.
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                      • russc
                        MCB Member
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 406

                        #12
                        Yeah, I think it looks cool but I agree it's an all show, no go kind of mod. Plenty of downsides, and the only real upside is you get to see the hammer bounce around.

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                        • XEMON
                          Frenchy is here!
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 3029
                          • Nor Cal

                          #13
                          Y'all make a good point ... I'm gonna bail on the window in this build ...
                          im trying to get as compact and light as possible, but the weight difference isn't gonna be worth the drama.

                          On the good side, the air through frame is done ✅
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