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  • MountainDewFKR
    AutoCocker Noob
    • Sep 2024
    • 51
    • Houston, TX

    #1

    Newb Trilogy Sport Owner

    So i just bought one off ebay on friday and plan to take it out next month sometime.
    In the meantime i plan to make sure its in working order and change out afew things.
    Since this is the sport its basically the base model from my understandings. I read that the sport can have issues when trying to use HPA since it was meant to be used with co2.
    Im currently hunting for a used carbon fiber hpa tank locally so want to make sure my cocker will play nice with HPA.

    Im assuming i would be good if it get
    -Dye Lazarus Valve
    -Adjustable Regulator (recommendations on this as this is a budget build) (or maybe get a stock regulator off a comp/pro to save cash)
    -Oring kit (recommendation on what oring kit to get)

    Is there something else i am missing?

    I also plan to look for a
    -14" Barrel probably Smartparts Progressive
    -Revy Hopper

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by MountainDewFKR; 09-23-2024, 12:19 PM.
  • superman
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 3380
    • Mount Pleasant, SC

    #2
    Couple things, the stock valve can be modified to work with hpa. It is much easier to do with a lathe if you have one, but not necessary. The front half has to be drilled out to a 1/4". Do not drill through the back portion. It helps keep the cup seal centered so it will properly seal. Personally i think this is a easier option than going down the lazarus valve route as your trading 1 static seal for 3 dynamic seals. Or if you want to buy a valve the shocktech phat rat will work if you use a spring perch. (https://beardedworks.com/products/bw...d-trilogy-body)

    Adjustable regulator, I would recommend cp. They work get the job done and easy to use.

    Oring kit, pick one up from the oringstore.

    Skip the progressive barrel and buy a cheap barrel kit.
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    • MountainDewFKR
      MountainDewFKR commented
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      Thanks, maybe ill give this a shot once i have it in my hands before buying a different valve
  • EvilCreature
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 194
    • Minnesota

    #3
    Given it is a closed-bolt pump you will want a barrel sized to be slightly smaller than your paint to avoid roll outs. Barrel kits are a great option that can be had for a decent price. I only mention that because I believe a SP Progressive is a one-piece barrel, which may work just fine, it just depends on your paint size,
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    • MountainDewFKR
      AutoCocker Noob
      • Sep 2024
      • 51
      • Houston, TX

      #4
      Random but were the Trilogy Autococker Pro SF barrel sets any good? Comes with .687/.689

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      • autococker04
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        They’re good, but big for most modern paint
    • MountainDewFKR
      AutoCocker Noob
      • Sep 2024
      • 51
      • Houston, TX

      #5
      ok, ill try to keep an eye open for a used barrel kit

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      • autococker04
        autococker04 commented
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        Or put a dab of fingernail polish in your barrel and call it good enough.

      • Jonnydread
        Jonnydread commented
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        Also worth checking out are the dummy detents for sale here:

        https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...barrel-detents

        These will allow you to use any barrel without rollouts, though your mileage will vary with efficiency if you’re using a larger bore barrel.
    • The Inflicted
      pǝʇɔᴉlɟuI ǝɥʇ
      • Jul 2020
      • 1548

      #6
      The Trilogy Sport I have runs fine on standard output (~850psi) HPA, no modifications necessary.

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      • MountainDewFKR
        AutoCocker Noob
        • Sep 2024
        • 51
        • Houston, TX

        #7
        Thats good to hear. ill probably run mine stock for the meetup then see what i want to change

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        • The Inflicted
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          • Jul 2020
          • 1548

          #8
          Originally posted by MountainDewFKR
          Thats good to hear. ill probably run mine stock for the meetup then see what i want to change
          Just bring some masking tape or something to address possible rollouts from the barrel.

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          • superman
            superman commented
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            electrical tape is the move. It holds up better and doesn't fall apart.
        • MountainDewFKR
          AutoCocker Noob
          • Sep 2024
          • 51
          • Houston, TX

          #9
          Thanks for the tips guys

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          • OpusX
            Still pumpin'
            • Jul 2020
            • 1465
            • KCMO

            #10
            Originally posted by MountainDewFKR
            So i just bought one off ebay on friday and plan to take it out next month sometime.
            In the meantime i plan to make sure its in working order and change out afew things.
            Spoken like a true cocker owner. Get it to work and then change it until it doesn't not work better

            You've got the right attitude, ideas, and advice in here.
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            • nicmauro
              Bunker Buster
              • Jan 2024
              • 156
              • Texas

              #11
              Just to second the above statement, I have had 2 sports that ran/chrono'ed fine on HPA. In fact, I didn't even realize they had different valves until after trying to mess with them

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              • MountainDewFKR
                MountainDewFKR commented
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                Nice, save me some cash and time my first trip to field.
                I see your in texas, dont happen to be Houston?
            • The Inflicted
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              • Jul 2020
              • 1548

              #12
              Originally posted by nicmauro
              Just to second the above statement, I have had 2 sports that ran/chrono'ed fine on HPA. In fact, I didn't even realize they had different valves until after trying to mess with them
              This is the first I'm even hearing about them not running well on HPA. I just thought it was understood that they were valved for higher input pressures, like pre-'97 cockers.

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              • superman
                superman commented
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                They run fine, people just have issues getting them to shoot at velocity. Specifically when adding a regulator.
            • Trbo323
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 6382
              • Vancouver WA

              #13


              Originally posted by superman

              Adjustable regulator, I would recommend cp. They work get the job done and easy to use.
              I agree, cp is not the cheapest but easily one of the best values. If you don't like the styling look at shocktech as well. Their reg uses cp internals but has a different styling on the outside


              Oring kit, pick one up from the oringstore.
              The o ring store doesn't sell individual kits for markers and the assortments they do have, only about half the sizes at best are useful for paintball. For his situation it's probably better to get a trilogy specific kit for now and then build a kit from the o ring store down the road


              Skip the progressive barrel and buy a cheap barrel kit.
              I agree with this though, a kit will be useful for markers past the trilogy

              Originally posted by OpusX
              Spoken like a true cocker owner. Get it to work and then change it until it doesn't not work better

              You've got the right attitude, ideas, and advice in here.
              I'm pretty sure the point at which it stopped working better was maybe halfway to where it currently sits.... Yeah

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              • MountainDewFKR
                AutoCocker Noob
                • Sep 2024
                • 51
                • Houston, TX

                #14
                Since im doing everything on a budget im looking at used gear in general.
                I know ppl say the revy fits the trilogy pretty well compared to most modern hoppers.
                Theres a halo too locally i can grab for about $25.
                Will this still work i just need to sand the hopper until it fits or is the size difference huge?

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                • Jsc5150
                  Jsc5150 commented
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                  What is your total budget (including shipping) for a barrel that won’t rollout and a revvy?
              • Trbo323
                MCB Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 6382
                • Vancouver WA

                #15
                Originally posted by MountainDewFKR
                Since im doing everything on a budget im looking at used gear in general.
                I know ppl say the revy fits the trilogy pretty well compared to most modern hoppers.
                Theres a halo too locally i can grab for about $25.
                Will this still work i just need to sand the hopper until it fits or is the size difference huge?
                Grab it. Those are great starter hoppers.

                Sanding may be needed but the good news is if by chance you go to far a new shell is easy to come by

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