Inception valve stuck in black magic

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  • 06blackmagic87
    Newbie
    • Mar 2025
    • 7

    #1

    Inception valve stuck in black magic

    Just rebuilt the hpr and solenoid on my black magic, figured I’d toss in a new valve, went with the inception hf. Was a little tight getting in and lined up but got it there, didn’t notice any orings binding up. Went to air it up and it’s just puking air down the barrel, tried cocked, hammer removed completely, loosened the valve retaining nut, nothing worked. Decided I’d pull the valve and just check the orings, but I can not for the life of me get the valve to budge. I’m at a loss as how to get it out now.
  • Socalpumpballer
    Bunker Buster
    • Nov 2020
    • 235

    #2
    Assuming you removed the valve retaining screw just take off the front block and push it out the back of the gun with something soft

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    • superman
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 3380
      • Mount Pleasant, SC

      #3
      pull the front block off and push it from the front to the rear.
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      • 06blackmagic87
        Newbie
        • Mar 2025
        • 7

        #4
        Yup, tried that as both of you said, doesn’t move at all

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        • Trbo323
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 6382
          • Vancouver WA

          #5
          Wooden dowel + mallet

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          • superman
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 3380
            • Mount Pleasant, SC

            #6
            Ironically enough i just got a message from someone else that is fighting this same issue on their body i just bored. I think the Inception valves are on the top side of the general bore size everyone else is using.
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            • 06blackmagic87
              Newbie
              • Mar 2025
              • 7

              #7
              Trbo323 definitely seems like the path I’ll be taking, baffled by how this thing will not move

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              • Trbo323
                MCB Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 6382
                • Vancouver WA

                #8
                If all else fails..... Fire

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                • 06blackmagic87
                  Newbie
                  • Mar 2025
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Trbo323 hell yea.

                  superman so would you also say dowel and mallet?

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                  • superman
                    MCB Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 3380
                    • Mount Pleasant, SC

                    #10
                    Ya I might try something with a softer front or with a dimpled face. Hopefully you can save the cup seal.


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                    • Blackmagic71
                      MCB Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 892
                      • Minnesota

                      #11
                      As others have said a wooden dowel with light tapping would be good to try.

                      I wonder if a shot of penetrating oil and letting it sit a while would help as well?
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                      • Trbo323
                        MCB Member
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 6382
                        • Vancouver WA

                        #12
                        If you have a heat gun it might be worth warming up the body to try and expand it a little.

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                      • latches109
                        Always Sciencing
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 2113

                        #13
                        put it in the freezer get it frozen then put in the vice with soft jaws or rubber, hit the lower tube with a heat gun, then take a wooden stick, or chopsticks, and hammer away from the cup seal side. Some lubrication in the lower tube won't hurt either.

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                        • Cdn_Cuda
                          You can finish projects?!
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 4563
                          • Vancouver, BC

                          #14
                          Is it a full body or a 2k5 BM? If a 2k5 (midblock) it can only go out the rear.
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                          • MullerTime
                            Rockin and Cockin
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 89

                            #15
                            From his user name it looks like it may be an 05 black magic. I know the 05 black magic were 11/16 valves but not bored 11/16 all the way so phat rat and Lazarus valves won't quite fit. Does anyone know if there are similar issues with the 11/16 inception valve in a 05 black magic and maybe that's why it was leaking and now stuck?

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