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  • Jordan
    I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
    • Jul 2020
    • 3512
    • Southern Ontario, Canada

    #16
    Originally posted by Psycho91
    These bodies don't have a spring perch in front of it do they that's milled into the body
    They do.

    That's why Lazarus valves don't fit.

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    • Cdn_Cuda
      Cdn_Cuda commented
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      Confirmed by trying to stuff a Laz into this body! Valve is only coming out one way as well.

    • minimag03
      minimag03 commented
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      I had no idea these had spring perches. Are these the only ¹¹/¹⁶ bodies with them besides maybe the SR? Seems like the worst of both ⁹/¹⁶ vs ¹¹/¹⁶ worlds... valve can only be inserted/removed from one end yet the frontblock still has to be removed to remove the valve from the body.
  • Psycho91
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1248
    • Lexington, SC

    #17
    Ahh sounds like he is just smacking the spring perch and not the face of the valve

    Try to get something though the hole on the front a see if the valve moves then

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    • latches109
      latches109 commented
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      whacking it too hard could break the cup seal

    • Psycho91
      Psycho91 commented
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      It ain't coming out right now anyway, might just have to take the chance, if it's not really stuck then a few light taps should do the trick, or like he said he can always just leave it be and run it till it starts leaking
  • Psycho91
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1248
    • Lexington, SC

    #18
    Aren't they also tapered so most valves don't fit either

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    • latches109
      Always Sciencing
      • Jul 2020
      • 2113

      #19
      looking at the photos posted with more light.
      stock resurrection valves have a lip. Older inception valves do not. your picture shows no lip. The cup seal seems to glow like a semi clear cup seal like inception as well. Also, in the background of your image I see a blurry inception bolt and hammer. Resurrections had terrible tolerances, a stuck valve does not surprise me.

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      • oats944
        Bunker Buster
        • Jan 2022
        • 260
        • Ewing NJ

        #20
        Thank you Latches yes the hammer and bolt are inception. Looking in through the front I can see a spring and a whitish plasticky piece inside the valve which I’m assuming is some kind of seal. I just don’t have the more traditional cup seal and valve spring in front of the valve like in your picture.

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        • Psycho91
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1248
          • Lexington, SC

          #21
          Wonder if the valve set screw hole has been damaged and maybe there's a bur keeping the valve from coming out had a trilogy body like that not to long ago

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          • latches109
            Always Sciencing
            • Jul 2020
            • 2113

            #22
            Originally posted by oats944
            Thank you Latches yes the hammer and bolt are inception. Looking in through the front I can see a spring and a whitish plasticky piece inside the valve which I’m assuming is some kind of seal. I just don’t have the more traditional cup seal and valve spring in front of the valve like in your picture.
            I don;t see any scratch marks going in, so it's probably just gunked up urethane orings. two options, make an air gun, plug and pressurize the cup seal side, OR thread a chopstick down there and whack it out.

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