Consensus on the dual-rod pump kit?

[pghp8ntballer]

Oh I haven’t seen the retro pump yet. That’s sweet! If only it came in clear acrylic. But I have a Rainman kit that I don’t use because it made the phantom noticeably heavier. If I want to use a heavy marker, I’ll use one of my VMs. But the Rainman kit is really nice especially because it uses the standard CCM pump handles.

[durandal]

1. But I have a Rainman kit that I don’t use because it made the phantom noticeably heavier. If I want to use a heavy marker, I’ll use one of my VMs. But the Rainman kit is really nice especially because it uses the standard CCM pump handles.

Looking to sell?

[pghp8ntballer]

Looking to sell?

I haven’t put it for sale but I have offered it in trade a couple times. I have no problem holding onto it because it is really nice.

[durandal]

I haven’t put it for sale but I have offered it in trade a couple times. I have no problem holding onto it because it is really nice.

Fair enough, it was worth an ask

[WORR13]

has anyone tried the retro handle for the dual rod? was thinking of getting one

[pghp8ntballer]

Fair enough, it was worth an ask

I didn’t say I wouldn’t sell it. Just not going to let it go for a song. PMs are a wonderful thing.

[Cunha]

I like stock handle and pump shim

Gotta use the lock nut to set the pump rod right.

With that I have basically zero rotation or binding and save a lot of money and weight and get to use the thumb screws.

[Siress]

I like stock handle and pump shim

Gotta use the lock nut to set the pump rod right.

With that I have basically zero rotation or binding and save a lot of money and weight and get to use the thumb screws.

I aim down the side of the barrel. I need undercocking like I need paintballs..

[flyweightnate]

has anyone tried the retro handle for the dual rod? was thinking of getting one

I'm about to...

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[Cunha]

I aim down the side of the barrel. I need undercocking like I need paintballs..

The cci dual rod is the best undercocking kit. The retro version looks better but I bet I prefer the feel of the square handle.

[SignOfZeta]

I have the dual rod underpumper.

It’s very nice, the action is very click clack. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. However it costs half as much as a Phantom which is pretty silly if you think about it and as nice as it is you still can’t compare it to...pretty much any Sniper. It also never stays put and makes your gun 10x harder to work on.

My other Phantom has the stubby handle and the shim is great for that. I don’t see the point in using it with the dual rod pump.

[Jonnydread]

I have never successfully installed one of those shims, they never quite seem to fit right.

[Siress]

I just installed the new CCI dual rod kit with the brass shim. It's very nice. I don't like the handle as much as my custom one - go figure - but the spring forces are balanced out now. That's a nice change. The rods are right where I want my fingertips, though. It'd be nice if the spring force were externally adjustable and there was the option for a hitman mod or whatever they call it these days.

[Matt Drown]

I was debating the dual-rod kit, but I really like the ease of breakdown with the thumbscrews on a VSC setup. I installed the shim, and really didn't notice a difference on my stock setup, and re-assembly after it ate a detent insert (3d printed one) was a pain. What's break-down like with the dual rod? Can I leave the VSC mounted on the trigger guard, or do i need to remove that to take the body apart? Picking up the undercocking kit is more to try and see how it works for me, I'm relatively happy with my stock setup.

FYI, I'm still running microline, not hardline/macro, because it hasn't blown yet and caused me to swap out

[Siress]

So, I have to trim my front screw down just a bit to clear the freak insert in the bored body. I think that modification is what allows me to remove the front screw completely without taking off the vert ASA. It's not much, just 2 or 3 turns.

[Matt Drown]

So, I have to trim my front screw down just a bit to clear the freak insert in the bored body. I think that modification is what allows me to remove the front screw completely without taking off the vert ASA. It's not much, just 2 or 3 turns.

My thumb screw comes out enough to disengage the body, body stays trapped between the VSC piece. Similar to that?