First Strike Roscoe Revolver

[shinjari]

Thanks for the reply Arthur

You sent both cylinders with the revolver? Just need the mag cylinder dimensions. I feel like they are darn close to the HDR50 ones so they should work but not sure yet.

[Arthur]

Sadly my Roscoe only shipped with one cylinder. I have a message over to ANS about it.

[shinjari]

Damn thats a bummer about only 1 cylinder included. And geez are they $25 for 2? Ouch.

[Arthur]

Yep, pretty lame.

[Lt. head-shot]

1 - 45.15MM
2 - 14.1MM
3 - 17.52MM
4 - 19.04MM

#2 doesn't seem to stick out as much as the HDR50, its more sunk in so not sure it that helps or not.

[shinjari]

Awesome! Thanks for the dimensions.

HDR50
Outer Diameter = ~44.9mm (~0.25mm delta)
Metal Center Piece Diameter = ~12.3mm (~1.8mm delta)
Plastic thickness = ~13.4mm (~4.1mm delta)
Metal Thickness = ~15.4mm (~3.6mm delta)

So it seems it is roughly the same diameter, but it seems to be a few mm's thicker which is fine. Going to 3d print one based on those dimensions you provided and see how they fit in my pouches. The thickness or the center piece shouldn't make a difference.

Can you take a pic or two like the ones I posted on the last page requesting dimensions?

Do you have a HDR50? If so, how does it compare to the roscoe? I like the break open and lower FPS (due to field people not understanding physics of 50 vs 68 cal and only understanding Chrono #s) but I already have (2) HDR50s haha.

[shinjari]

Came across this which was interesting.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4586688

[shinjari]

3D printed a mock up cylinder from the dimensions provided by Lt. head-shot

Diameter and the center rotating device are not an issue with my pouches. The thickness makes it a little tougher to put the mag inside the pouch since I use shock cord to keep the pouch together and ensure the mag doesn't just slip out when running. I'm sure if I loosen the shock cord tension it'd be easier. Good to see overall should be able to use the pouch for either one.

The only snag is needing to know the size of that chamfer along the top and bottom lip of the mag. I did a 1mm @ 45° and it just doesn't seem right when I compare to pics.

[Lt. head-shot]

Unfortunately don't have a HDR to compare. I've held one before, and the Roscoe definitely feels heavier/more solid.

[shinjari]

Thanks for the pics.

Hmmm yeah the 'face' and the 'lip' of the cylinder seem to be very rounded.

[P.I.C.T. Tactical]

After First Strike couldn’t fix the gun that came to me new (broken) and weeks went by between emails I just returned it.

its bigger than a TIPX and holds six rounds of .50 paint

that clunky break open lever gets hit every time you try to draw it from a right hand fabric holster

first strike made the magazines just different enough that I can’t use the 12 I have sitting here for my TR50

piss poor design and QC no thanks

[Arthur]

FS has a spotty record here to begin with. The T15 was nothing but a salad shooter for the majority of players that bought them. That’s why I only stick to T8 stuff. Absolutely love the FSC, only great things to say there btw.

I bought this marker knowing full well it would be too heavy to carry as a sidearm. (I’m 5’9’’, smaller frame). This is a great range toy though. Target practicing is a hoot. I plan to buy 4-5 more for parties and camping trips. The .50 cal is easier on the uninitiated.

[P.I.C.T. Tactical]

Sounds like you are better versed than me. I haven’t owned anything Tiberius arms since the t8 and I have had issues w my Scout.

[shinjari]

So we just had a Revolver and Shotguns only event this weekend. So everyone was rocking a T4E shotgun or a HDR50 and only ONE person was rocking the Roscoe. Oh there was also someone with one of those SUPER fancy Colt revolvers that you actually have to load a paintball into a shell casing.

I sold a couple of my 3d printed gauntlets/Molle pouches to hold the revolver cylinders and while they were originally meant to hold the HDR50 cylinders they hold the roscoe ones just as well. Lemme know if anyone is interested. I need to repost my FS thread on the new forum since the old MCB was tragically lost.

The Roscoe owner was having some blending issues with the round ball we were shooting, but it shot first strikes just fine. Was not really a fan of how flimsy the CO2 cover/grip felt. Hopefully it holds up over time.

[Arthur]

Man, that’s just my type of game. Where do you play Shinjari?

[Lt. head-shot]

For those that are looking at it, ANS carries the high impact valve. Bumped my FPS from 160 to 280 first shot, then it sat around 260 for a majority of shots with FSR.

However this did NOT help my accuracy in any way. I have a 10-12 inch wide tree approximately 40 feet out my back deck. I can normally put 68 cal groups in a 6-8 inch group with a rare flyer, and with my 43 cal colt conversion about the same, maybe a little bigger group. With the Roscoe I hit the tree ONCE out of 3 mags. 1 roundball mag and 2 FSR mags. The FSR spiral like they are anime rockets. Its truly abysmal.

I LOVE the concept of this revolver. Fast reloads, FSR possible, rail on the top for sights... but at the end of the day this will never hit the field. I'll dress it up as a Cyberpunk hand cannon but it will stay as a prop.

[shinjari]

Arthur I play here in San Diego/SoCal. This is the 3rd event like this that has been done at our field. 1st was a revolvers only, then after the shotgun became more readily available we had a shotgun only event, then most recently the revolvers and shotguns only event.

Lt. head-shot I would have to concur with your findings after talking with that Roscoe owner again this weekend. The reloading is definitely faster than the HDR50, but the hdr50 is at least fairly accurate. Haven't tried the FSRs through it though. Did run a prototype HDR50 HPA air thru adapter a machinist buddy made and it brought the HDR50 velocity down to the 255-260 range instead of 325+ for round ball.

Those Colt .43 conversions are pretty slick. There was someone at the event with one...super clean looking.

[P.I.C.T. Tactical]

My thoughts are that First Strike should be including that valve with their new guns since they are underpowered. Customers buying them in addition to the pistol seems like making the customer pay for mistakes.

[shinjari]

It's like getting the correct marker....with extra steps.