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  • Jordan
    I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
    • Jul 2020
    • 3514
    • Southern Ontario, Canada

    #1

    PPS Hurricane, mk. 4

    Or, much like the Ship of Theseus - when does it stop being a Palmers and start being something else? 🤔

    This thing has gone through several iterations - it started life as a scratch-built Hurricane, presumably hand-built by Glenn at some point in the early '90s judging by the bespoke internals.

    I have no idea how many owners it went through until it ended up in my hands, but by the time I got it in 2020 it had most of the lower tube missing - no LPR components - and the stock was gone. After some questions on Facebook that were answered by Drum ('member him, anyone?), I managed to piece together a semi-functional facsimile of what Glenn had originally installed, which meant it was operational but not useable until I located a stock, which I managed to find on Facebook as well (I think Chplnstone might have sold it to me).

    After some nerve-wracking surgery I managed to get it mounted in a KP stock and functional:



    But then the real problem with wood-stocked paintball markers reared it's ugly head - KP stocks are too small for me to use comfortably, their ergonomics suck, and I hate them. 🙂 Probably why I've sold off the other two I've owned.

    It's next iteration involved MAr, his wood, and possibly a video or two - but that's between him and myself.




    Most people on here have seen it a time or two, and it even won MOTM at some point. This version improved some issues - namely, it's usability and ergonomics - but revealed others. The LPR had issues - it was just too finicky and led to either not cocking properly and thus chopping half-fed paint, or over-pressurizing the cocking system and locking the trigger up. I found I disliked having a Revvy hanging off the side of the gun, and the large-bore barrel lacked any sort of detents, leading to rollout problems with the tiny paint at the FPO fields I play at.

    This coincided with PPS shutting their doors and leaving me without the option of simply sending it to them to bring it up to modern PPS specs, which led to....

    The next iteration:



    I gutted the lower tube, which led to me using a 'Cane ASA and female Stab so I could run an external LPR sidesaddle of the reg, and I built a clamp-on springfeed. This setup improved a few things but I still wasn't happy with the results... and even with wedgits hammered into the barrel I still had rollouts or barrel breaks depending on the paint. Plus - it was goofy looking. 🙂

    Fast forward to January '24 - I've been experimenting with building brass Sheridan-based markers for a couple of years now, with the end goal of developing a skillset that would allow me to build a new body for my Hurricane based on my own specs. In the process I've scrapped a few projects or stolen parts off others, and taken more than a few ideas off the stuff other people are building (a lot of talented builders on here, and I'm grateful they post their stuff up for others to gawk at and drool over).

    I didn't want to cut up the original body so I built another one using two partial Sheridan lowers and a scratch-built upper. This one takes Freak XL inserts, has a 10 round spring feed, and uses an external Microrock in the usual under-barrel location. I built it to accept all the usual PPS internals and cocking components, so it retains side-mounted Humphreys ram, the quickstrip PPS bolt, and Hurricane 4way and Zbracket.

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    Just a couple more things to do yet - I'm going to use a Cocker detent and there are plans for a full length lugged rail that will incorporate a barrel tip retainer, so I still have some hotwork to finish up, and I need to decide what stock I'll use and finish modifying that. Got a couple ideas on how I'll mount a regulator and run hoses, not sure how they'll work out yet.
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  • Alexndl
    MCB member
    • Jul 2020
    • 3533
    • Montreal, Qc, Canada

    #2
    Amazing work!
    Cant wait to see the final result
    Send me some dimension so I can make you a custom 3d print quick feed adaptor, neat and compact.
    💀Team Ragnastock💀

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    • Jordan
      Jordan commented
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      It's two of your 3d printed components put together with a bit of epoxy - the ramp from your feedplugs, and one of the feedtube endcaps. They go together like they were designed to. 🙂 I drill a hole straight through and pin it with a setscrew, then add the knob.

  • Grendel
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1980
    • Lexington, SC

    #3
    The Mar collaboration iteration reminds me of the Mini-14s in the A-Team (two thumbs up for that )


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    • Jordan
      Jordan commented
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      The current version won't stray too far from that, the biggest external change is the integration of the springfeed.

      This should be the perfect version for me. If PPS was still in business I'd have commissioned something like this from them but they went out of business just as I started having a lot more disposable income for hobbies.
  • Jordan
    I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
    • Jul 2020
    • 3514
    • Southern Ontario, Canada

    #4
    Drilled and tapped the breech for the detent (always nerve-wracking) and got a good start on the lugged rail.

    I think I'll taper it down by the breech and figure out something for a sight rail. Maybe a Picatinny setup? I have some rails left over from some SP1s, might build a mount to accept one of them.

    Probably going to run a fiber optic rod at the end, like a shotgun sight, too, but I'll solder a bit of brass tube in as a holder.



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    • Jordan
      I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
      • Jul 2020
      • 3514
      • Southern Ontario, Canada

      #5
      Hotwork is done! I need to grab a few things from the hardware store to finish off the springfeed, and I'll put it all together to verify function before I decide on what I'll finish it in (probably wrinkle black, I think I have just enough left).


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      • Alexndl
        MCB member
        • Jul 2020
        • 3533
        • Montreal, Qc, Canada

        #6
        Does grey/silver wrinkle paint exist?
        Would look like pps plating

        Wrinkle black will look really good too
        💀Team Ragnastock💀

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        • Jordan
          Jordan commented
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          I'm not sure, actually. It might.... I'll check into it. I went black, anyways. 🙂

          My can of black died just as I was finishing the last coat so I need to get another can of something.

        • Jordan
          Jordan commented
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          I can only find red and black on Amazon so I ordered more black. 🙂
      • Jordan
        I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
        • Jul 2020
        • 3514
        • Southern Ontario, Canada

        #7
        Well, I put everything together temporarily this afternoon and nothing leaks/everything cycles properly, so final assembly tomorrow probably. I still need to get to the hardware store - I got there just as they closed today so I couldn't grab the pieces I needed for the springfeed.

        Almost there... still some mods to do to whatever stock I end up using, it should warm up next week so I can work in my garage longer than 20 minutes at a time.

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        • Jordan
          I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
          • Jul 2020
          • 3514
          • Southern Ontario, Canada

          #8
          Change of plans, slightly... I had originally planned on running a Stabilizer directly under the lower tube, with a pipe nipple connecting the reg to the gun, but I can't get the Stab close enough to the body to look and fit like I want it to, so I went a different route and mounted an Inline Stab I got from woouulf off the bottomline ASA.

          So I guess that makes it 97% complete - I just need to pick up a couple of knurled thumbnuts for the springfeed and then air it up to make sure there are no leaks.

          I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

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          • Toestr
            Toestr commented
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            Did you try a close nipple?

          • Jordan
            Jordan commented
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            Toestr - I did. The taper is the problem... if it was a straight thread it would thread in to the point I want it at, but with the taper "bulge" in the middle of the union there's like an 1/8" to 3/16" gap. I want it tight against the lower tube - more support for the reg, and it'll fit within the body of the stock as well.

            I haven't given up yet, but that'll be a project for another time.
        • Jordan
          I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
          • Jul 2020
          • 3514
          • Southern Ontario, Canada

          #9
          Got the pieces I needed and finished off the springfeed today.... running some paint through it revealed some feed problems with the ramp on the feedplug so I had to change up a couple things. Seems to feeding properly, I ran 20 or 30 rounds through it after the mods without any issues.

          All done until I can get to the field in a couple months and try it out. 🙂

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