Mech ion, Smav 3 question.

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  • Dauntless152
    Formally Dauntless15
    • May 2022
    • 274
    • NJ

    #1

    Mech ion, Smav 3 question.

    I have made a few mech ions , and I love them to death so much that I sold pretty much all my other mechanical guns. Including my beloved automag. But I’m wondering if there is a three-way valve that has a shorter travel? It’s a very short travel to begin with using a Clifford Smav 3x but is there something with a shorter travel to actuate ?
  • Jordan
    I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
    • Jul 2020
    • 3514
    • Southern Ontario, Canada

    #2
    You could run a Mac33 solenoid if you convert the valve to mechanical actuation (ahem, rawbutter) but you'd need to run an external LPR to provide air pressure to it and then have to fiddle with balancing your LPR and HPR.

    Smavs have a 1/16" stem travel, though - is that not short enough?

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    • rawbutter
      trophy husband
      • Jul 2020
      • 562
      • Fredericksburg, VA

      #3
      Originally posted by Jordan
      You could run a Mac33 solenoid if you convert the valve to mechanical actuation (ahem, rawbutter) but you'd need to run an external LPR to provide air pressure to it and then have to fiddle with balancing your LPR and HPR.

      Smavs have a 1/16" stem travel, though - is that not short enough?
      MAC-33s can definitely be shorter. Generally I like to put the solenoid valve relatively high up behind the trigger (as high as I can go without hitting the piston) so that the trigger provides some leverage, which makes the pull softer and longer (about 1 mm). But if you put the solenoid farther down, the trigger pull can get pretty stupid short.



      The disadvantage to this is that the trigger pull is heavier. You can see in the video when I try to tap the trigger farther up, and the marker doesn't shoot because I'm being too gentle. This isn't as big a deal when you're shooting the gun the "correct" way instead of using one finger on your weak hand at a weird angle, but it's still noticeable.
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      • Dauntless152
        Formally Dauntless15
        • May 2022
        • 274
        • NJ

        #4
        Hmmm . How would that work on a spool

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        • rawbutter
          trophy husband
          • Jul 2020
          • 562
          • Fredericksburg, VA

          #5
          Beats me. I just a pneumag guy. I've never even owned an Ion.
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          • Jordan
            I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
            • Jul 2020
            • 3514
            • Southern Ontario, Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by Dauntless152
            Hmmm . How would that work on a spool
            Pretty easy, hook the hoses up the same way as a SMAV.

            rawbutter - any idea what the max input pressure is on the MAC valve?
            Last edited by Jordan; 02-25-2023, 10:12 PM.

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            • rawbutter
              trophy husband
              • Jul 2020
              • 562
              • Fredericksburg, VA

              #7
              Originally posted by Jordan

              rawbutter - any idea what the max input pressure is on the MAC valve?
              The stock ones I can get only go up to 120 psi. You can buy modified MAC 33s from Polestar that are designed for Airsoft HPA engines. They go up to 200. But I can't order those. They're proprietary. You'd have to pay the $85 to get them from Polestar. Yikes.

              Don't forget that you also need to factor in the cost of fittings. M3 fittings are surprisingly expensive and hard to find. I think the Beswick ones are the best, but M3 swivel elbow fittings are $8 a piece, and shipping is usually over $20. Straight fittings are much cheaper, but they only work if you have a lot of space inside the frame.
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              Let me make you something. I build pneumags, auto-response frames, and wooden pill cases.

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