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  • Nish
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    Is there a way to take something like a rotor with the manual pull lever on the bottom back and make it so that it what you do to charge the mechanical feed?
    obviously a pull would need to work for more than just a couple balls.

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  • Jordan
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    Shocker Sports have a vent on the body that can be used, and a Cocker with a QEV could work too...

  • Bow
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    The Raider was trash.

    We had 10 at the field ats rentals and they literally fed maybe half the time.

    They all got sent back to never be seen again.

  • Bow
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    Originally posted by un2xs

    For anybody who actually knows, what are the differences between these two hoppers besides size?
    The Dust Devil is slightly wider but shorter length wise than a mini pals. Picture has a JOLO in there too. The V mech looks massive. I haven't seen one but it looks like a full size hopper and all of these are minis. A full wind on the v mech won't get you through a full hopper, the DT1 will. The V holds 160 I think where as a stock DT1 holds like 50-60.

    The actual mechanisms in both are different. The DT1 is damn near silent, from the videos I've seen of the V it sounds super loud and can popcorn. The Dust devil uses a feed tray kinda similar to a Z2, at least in an abstract way. The V mech uses an auger. Also the DT1 is wound Clockwise, where as the V is wound counter clockwise.

    The V has an indicator for how much you've wound it. The Dust devil does not. It's not a big deal though, at least IMHO. The Dust devil needs some extra grip on the knob, so I took a wood burning tip and stippled it. It's kinda a PITA to wind in a low profile feedneck, and won't fit on some where the collar can't rotate.

    Also the knob on the dust devil has some kind of disconnect gear for the knob, so It doesn't spin when you shoot it. The V has its little handle twirling in your face.

    Hope that helps.

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  • Meleager7
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    i've thought of this puzzle myself here and there. If you're designing a loader and omitting batteries and motors, you're next goal is figuring out how to get at that potential energy stored in the tank, and turning it into mechanical energy.

    Tippmanns, and now Emeks, i think are the only guns that have ports that will meter out some high pressure air for the purpose of driving accessories.

    The automag RT had output ports too, but they were not metered, just another port providing air at whatever the tank pressure was. No accessories ever appeared to make use of it that i know of.

    The last innovation was that novel Tippmann Raider chain or bead drive, that was attached to the ion based bolt assembly , which drove the cyclone like integrated loader in stock. But that gun was a flop before it even released, so no one really has any idea how well it actually worked. But kudos to Tippmann for briefly showing their old stripes and trying something new and innovative!

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  • Toestr
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    In a similar thread before the crash, someone had the idea of putting cyclone guts into a revvy shell. I assume they meant agitated, but a forced feed style might not be much harder.

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  • Jonnydread
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    I feel like an air assist could rig up to a splitter hopper in some way.

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  • BrickHaus
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    Lets think one up, this place seems to be a think tank of colaberation and tech skills. I would think you would almost have to make a barrel adapter that had a channel in it. With a littlebarbed fitting on it. That used the shot air preasure to actuate. The hopper.

    it would be the only way I can think of thatll geta similar force of air across all markers it threads i to... then a little cocker hose up to your hopper to run an auger or something.

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  • un2xs
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    Interesting. My first thought involved a Slammer System Speed Collar in the back. However, these require a Cyclone Feeder. I should have specified mech loaders for normal feed necks.

    Still, the T-3 looks interesting. I may have to check if they take the old view loader sized lid. If so, it might be scalpel time.

  • Meleager7
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    there is the APP turbo one

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  • un2xs
    started a topic Mechanical Hoppers?

    Mechanical Hoppers?

    What are the options for mechanical hoppers? For a non-PAL gun, is there currently only one option... the V-Mech?

    I still have hope for the DT1, but I believe the inventor is going at the speed his resources allow. I hope I am still on any purchase order list that has been started. Look here if you are not familiar with the DT1: https://web.archive.org/web/20170720...ed-loader.html

    For anybody who actually knows, what are the differences between these two hoppers besides size?
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