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    Snocker?

    Is an Autococker converted to pump still an Autococker or is it now a Sniper?

    I ask because I have seen such beasts refered both ways. Which is more correct? Or does it depend on how it came from the manufacturer?

    Starts
    07-10-2021
    Ends
    07-12-2021

    #2
    It’s obviously a ManualCocker

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      #3
      I refer to mine as "Autococker Pumps"

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        #4
        I do enjoy that this is such a recurring question, even this day and age.

        I think officially, Snipers are licensed pump guns put out by whomever owns the license at the time, be it WGP or Empire.

        But pump-converted Autocockers are colloquially referred to as Snipers, and we all know what that means, so don't worry about it.
        Magoo's/DeTrevni's wayback feedback

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          #5
          It's pretty basic mathematics. From the factory WGP didn't have sniper specific bodies and autococker specific bodies (for the most part, we'll get to that), it was just grab a body and add the needed parts. With internals and grip frames being constants that would naturally cancel out with basic comparisons, we'll ignore those for now.

          Body (B) + Pump (P) = Sniper (S)
          Body (B) + Pneumatics (Pn) = Autococker (Ac)

          Ac - Pn + P = X is the question. Start with autococker, remove pneumatics, add pump, what do you get?

          Since Ac = B + Pn, so the above can be rewritten as B + Pn - Pn + P = X which simplifies to B + P = X. Since we know that B + P = S, then X = S, for Sniper.

          However, if you start with a specific body that was on only one model of gun, say a Karnivor, or Outcast, well that name is tied to the body and not the combination of parts, so in those cases a Karnivor Pump and similar would be correct.

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            #7
            I thought autocockers were officially called sniper II autococker. So take away the autococking makes it a sniper II
            V.P. of Ragnastock

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              #8
              Sniper. The end.
              Feedback 3.0

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                #9
                Sniper if Pump
                Autococker if semiauto

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                • nobbie333

                  nobbie333

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                  What do you call a Pneumatic Pump Sniper

                • Jordan

                  Jordan

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                  It's only a SHO if Brad Nestlé made it, otherwise it's just a pneumatic assist pump.

                #10
                I remember the early ads called cockers "Sniper Autocockers".
                So, I'd call both snipers. The term "autococker" was originally an added adjective, not a noun

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