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  • un2xs
    Old Slow Fat Guy
    • Jul 2020
    • 570
    • Manhappening Kansas

    #1

    Snocker?

    Is an Autococker converted to pump still an Autococker or is it now a Sniper?

    I ask because I have seen such beasts refered both ways. Which is more correct? Or does it depend on how it came from the manufacturer?

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    07-10-2021
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    07-11-2021
  • Chappy
    Overmoderator
    • Jul 2020
    • 1300

    #2
    It’s obviously a ManualCocker

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    • Junglepeanut
      I would rather be fishing
      • Jul 2020
      • 1506

      #3
      I refer to mine as "Autococker Pumps"

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      • Magoo
        Bunker Buster
        • Jul 2020
        • 149

        #4
        I do enjoy that this is such a recurring question, even this day and age.

        I think officially, Snipers are licensed pump guns put out by whomever owns the license at the time, be it WGP or Empire.

        But pump-converted Autocockers are colloquially referred to as Snipers, and we all know what that means, so don't worry about it.
        Magoo's/DeTrevni's wayback feedback

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        • Fubarius
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 496
          • New Richmond, WI

          #5
          It's pretty basic mathematics. From the factory WGP didn't have sniper specific bodies and autococker specific bodies (for the most part, we'll get to that), it was just grab a body and add the needed parts. With internals and grip frames being constants that would naturally cancel out with basic comparisons, we'll ignore those for now.

          Body (B) + Pump (P) = Sniper (S)
          Body (B) + Pneumatics (Pn) = Autococker (Ac)

          Ac - Pn + P = X is the question. Start with autococker, remove pneumatics, add pump, what do you get?

          Since Ac = B + Pn, so the above can be rewritten as B + Pn - Pn + P = X which simplifies to B + P = X. Since we know that B + P = S, then X = S, for Sniper.

          However, if you start with a specific body that was on only one model of gun, say a Karnivor, or Outcast, well that name is tied to the body and not the combination of parts, so in those cases a Karnivor Pump and similar would be correct.

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          • Jordan
            I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
            • Jul 2020
            • 3508
            • Southern Ontario, Canada

            #6
            Bud Orr says they're Snipers if it has a pump, and that's good enough for me.

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            • Havoc
              Ragnastock's #2 man
              • Jul 2020
              • 148
              • Western MA

              #7
              I thought autocockers were officially called sniper II autococker. So take away the autococking makes it a sniper II
              V.P. of Ragnastock

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              • iamthelazerviking
                Make Paintballs 690 Again
                • Jul 2020
                • 2799
                • Staunton, VA

                #8
                Sniper. The end.
                Feedback 3.0

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                • nobbie333
                  MCB Member for life
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 461
                  • Kansas City, Missouri

                  #9
                  Sniper if Pump
                  Autococker if semiauto

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                  • nobbie333
                    nobbie333 commented
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                    What do you call a Pneumatic Pump Sniper

                  • Jordan
                    Jordan commented
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                    It's only a SHO if Brad Nestlé made it, otherwise it's just a pneumatic assist pump.
                • Hp_lovecraft
                  MCB Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 374

                  #10
                  I remember the early ads called cockers "Sniper Autocockers".
                  So, I'd call both snipers. The term "autococker" was originally an added adjective, not a noun

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