Six Way Autococker Switch

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  • automeister
    Bunker Buster
    • Aug 2021
    • 485

    #1

    Six Way Autococker Switch

    So years ago company used to produce a front block with dual LPR's called the gemini kit. They are just a cool piece of history. I have been looking for one of these for years without success and would like to make one myself since I have not been able to find one. Does anyone here know of someone that can make the 6-way switch necessary to make one of these work?
  • XEMON
    Frenchy is here!
    • Jul 2020
    • 3060
    • Nor Cal

    #2
    I thought those had a true 3 way valve on each side ("autococker 3 way" are really 5 way valve). Each LPR feed each true 3 way valve.

    Your goal is to have different pressure on each side of the ram right?
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    • Brokeass_baller
      Pick it up!
      • Jul 2020
      • 1129
      • Ohio

      #3
      I used to have one. Neat kit, but was honestly weird to tune. I don't think I've ever seen any off the shelf products similar to it, though.
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      • Brokeass_baller
        Pick it up!
        • Jul 2020
        • 1129
        • Ohio

        #4
        Ha! I had some old photos I saved from my Photobucket account, before they became greedy bastards.

        For those unfamiliar, the Gemini kit (made by GForce, who tried making a pneucocker-like gun at one point, and eventually produced a limited number of automag pneu frames) had a 6-way (or whatever) and a custom front block that allowed the use of two lprs. One LPR would control the higher recocking pressure, while the other controlled a lower bolt-closing pressure. The idea was to pinch paint instead of chop.
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        • XEMON
          XEMON commented
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          That's really cool, never seen one like that.
          It is two 3 way in one body ... Clever!
          Thanks for sharing the pictures.

        • Brokeass_baller
          Brokeass_baller commented
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          No problem. It was a neat idea. Sorry the pictures are so blurry. I'm pretty sure I took them with my old iphone 3g about ten years ago. They didn't have the best cameras. Lol
      • Hp_lovecraft
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 374

        #5
        I wonder if the Clippard FV valves would work? They 2 separate inputs, and direct to 2 separate outputs... but with a single exhaust.
        https://www.clippard.com/downloads/P...Page%20120.pdf


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        • Brokeass_baller
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          Those look like spring return poppet switches.
      • automeister
        Bunker Buster
        • Aug 2021
        • 485

        #6
        Thanks for posting those pictures! That is the kit i would really like to replicate. So what is the the valve? Is it a 5 way or 6 way?

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        • XEMON
          XEMON commented
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          Looks like 2 3way actuated by the same rod ...
      • Jordan
        I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
        • Jul 2020
        • 3508
        • Southern Ontario, Canada

        #7
        Originally posted by Hp_lovecraft
        I wonder if the Clippard FV valves would work? They 2 separate inputs, and direct to 2 separate outputs... but with a single exhaust.
        https://www.clippard.com/downloads/P...Page%20120.pdf

        Where are you seeing two separate inputs? I see one input and two outputs on all three valves on that page you linked.

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        • Hp_lovecraft
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 374

          #8
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          • automeister
            Bunker Buster
            • Aug 2021
            • 485

            #9
            Does anyone know who can make one of these switches? Where would you guys suggest one look?

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            • lizardking132
              Desperately lost
              • Jul 2020
              • 193
              • NH

              #10
              https://grabcad.com/library/gemini-k...y-autococker-1 found this while googling Gemini kits, might be worth a shot
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              • Jordan
                I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
                • Jul 2020
                • 3508
                • Southern Ontario, Canada

                #11
                Originally posted by automeister
                Does anyone know who can make one of these switches? Where would you guys suggest one look?
                PPS can make you one... I think Craig Palmer posted something similar a while back.

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                • automeister
                  Bunker Buster
                  • Aug 2021
                  • 485

                  #12
                  Has anyone ever used grabcad before?

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