Six Way Autococker Switch

[automeister]

So years ago company used to produce a front block with dual LPR's called the gemini kit. They are just a cool piece of history. I have been looking for one of these for years without success and would like to make one myself since I have not been able to find one. Does anyone here know of someone that can make the 6-way switch necessary to make one of these work?

[XEMON]

I thought those had a true 3 way valve on each side ("autococker 3 way" are really 5 way valve). Each LPR feed each true 3 way valve.

Your goal is to have different pressure on each side of the ram right?

[Brokeass_baller]

I used to have one. Neat kit, but was honestly weird to tune. I don't think I've ever seen any off the shelf products similar to it, though.

[Brokeass_baller]

Ha! I had some old photos I saved from my Photobucket account, before they became greedy bastards.

For those unfamiliar, the Gemini kit (made by GForce, who tried making a pneucocker-like gun at one point, and eventually produced a limited number of automag pneu frames) had a 6-way (or whatever) and a custom front block that allowed the use of two lprs. One LPR would control the higher recocking pressure, while the other controlled a lower bolt-closing pressure. The idea was to pinch paint instead of chop.

[XEMON]

That's really cool, never seen one like that.
It is two 3 way in one body ... Clever!
Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[Brokeass_baller]

No problem. It was a neat idea. Sorry the pictures are so blurry. I'm pretty sure I took them with my old iphone 3g about ten years ago. They didn't have the best cameras. Lol

[Hp_lovecraft]

I wonder if the Clippard FV valves would work? They 2 separate inputs, and direct to 2 separate outputs... but with a single exhaust.

https://www.clippard.com/downloads/PDF_Documents/Clippard%20Full%20Line%20Catalog/Clippard%20Catalog%20by%20Page%20Number/Directional%20Control%20Valves/Page%20120.pdf

[Brokeass_baller]

Those look like spring return poppet switches.

[automeister]

Thanks for posting those pictures! That is the kit i would really like to replicate. So what is the the valve? Is it a 5 way or 6 way?

[XEMON]

Looks like 2 3way actuated by the same rod ...

[Jordan]

I wonder if the Clippard FV valves would work? They 2 separate inputs, and direct to 2 separate outputs... but with a single exhaust.

https://www.clippard.com/downloads/PDF_Documents/Clippard%20Full%20Line%20Catalog/Clippard%20Catalog%20by%20Page%20Number/Directional%20Control%20Valves/Page%20120.pdf

Where are you seeing two separate inputs? I see one input and two outputs on all three valves on that page you linked.

[Hp_lovecraft]

This is the one, but looking at the dimensions, it’s huge. Haha

[automeister]

Does anyone know who can make one of these switches? Where would you guys suggest one look?

[lizardking132]

https://grabcad.com/library/gemini-k...y-autococker-1 found this while googling Gemini kits, might be worth a shot

[Jordan]

Does anyone know who can make one of these switches? Where would you guys suggest one look?

PPS can make you one... I think Craig Palmer posted something similar a while back.

[automeister]

Has anyone ever used grabcad before?