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  • DocsMachine
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 2700
    • Alaska

    #1

    Makin' wood grips!

    For Christmas this year, my present to myself was a "small wheel" attachment to my 2x72" belt grinder.



    The knifemakers use these to help form fingergrooves and other small details on knife handles. I've always wanted one of these, but usually had to make do with Dremels, a cheap spindle sander, or just plain files. I have a couple upcoming projects- including finishing up that Bushmaster 45 frame I posted a few weeks back- where something like this would make that sort of thing easier and quicker, so I splurged.

    And, to try it out, I had a couple of rough-sawed walnut panels I'd cut to fit a Bob Long humpback frame. I threw on a semi-fine belt, and spent a few minutes dressing those down to size.





    Not by any stretch my best work. As with any tool, there's a pretty solid learning curve here, plus a need for patience. The belt grinder can take off a LOT of material in a big hurry, so one has to learn to take it slow.



    The slab of walnut I chose started out a little too thick, and it's tough to just grind these thin. Plus I kept scorching the wood- the wheel kit came with instructions to carefully watch the belt speed so you don't burn up the tiny bearings (and they do get hot!) but even slowed down to 60% (on the dial, anyway) if I pressed too hard I'd get dark scorch marks.

    This set didn't come out too bad, but I want to start over with one of the thinner slabs I have. Take a little more time to fit and profile them better.

    Doc.
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  • Chuck E Ducky
    Ragnastock Enforcer
    • Jul 2020
    • 6116
    • NY

    #2
    Nice work those are going to look great!

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    • Super Nova
      Old School
      • Jul 2020
      • 1812
      • Oregon

      #3
      Don't beat yourself up too much Doc, those look great especially for a first attempt.
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      • desertT1
        12,683...*reset*...1
        • Jul 2020
        • 124

        #4
        Very cool. The wood (Smart Parts?) grips I have on my Sniper are probably my favorite feeling and fitting grips I have.

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        • DocsMachine
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 2700
          • Alaska

          #5
          Absolutely not "beating myself up" over it. I fully expected the first attempt to be less than perfect- hell, there's things I've been doing tor twenty years I haven't gotten "perfect" yet.

          These were, very much, a learning experience. First, these cheap small wheels don't have a rubber or urethane working surface. I wanted that kit, but it was more than five times the cost, and it was a stretch just to get this budget kit. The hard steel rollers "thump" more with the seam of the belts- urethane wheels (and better belts) help that issue a lot. The 'belt thump' adds marks to the part, especially soft wood, that takes some work to get rid of.

          Second, I haven't done much woodworking with this thing, and I didn't realize just how easy it was to 'scorch' the wood. Third, the coarse belts remove material fast, but can also chip the wood- and can remove material fast enough to make an error that can be tough to erase.

          Fourth, I have big hands, so I thought having thicker panels would be nice, but it's not so much the thickness of the wood, it's how well the shape blends with the curves of the frame itself.

          Fifth, I forgot a common aspect to a paintball gun: I spent a lot of time shaping the grips to be the most comfortable as you're holding it like a proper handgun... most of which is irrelevant as you're holding it to actually rip out a few ropes.

          Like anything else, there's a learning curve.

          Doc.
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          • flyweightnate
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 1854
            • Dallas, TX

            #6
            Don't be afraid to finish by hand. Use the belt for shaping, but a bow sander or sponge to get the marks out.

            For speed, the wood finishers I follow tend to advise to increase grit instead of decrease speed to slow down removal, but if you're seeing burning, you might have to go the opposite direction and get Cubitron belts or similar to reduce clogging. Tough problem to kick completely.

            Congrats on the new tool! Nothing classes up some hardware like wood furniture.
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            • DocsMachine
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 2700
              • Alaska

              #7
              Originally posted by flyweightnate
              Don't be afraid to finish by hand. Use the belt for shaping, but a bow sander or sponge to get the marks out.
              -Oh sure, finishing isn't the issue. I know how to file and sand things, and I have enough sandpaper in the shop to make a beach. It's the shaping- wood, for some strange reason, disappears faster than aluminum or steel. It's also the first time using this small wheel, and is going to take a little practice.

              For speed, the wood finishers I follow tend to advise to increase grit instead of decrease speed to slow down removal[...]
              -That's one thing I haven't had time for, yet, checking out some of the woodworking and knifemaking channels to get some tips. I could probably teach my own masterclass on shaping aluminum with a 10" serrated wheel but as I said, I haven't done much woodwork with it.

              Doc.

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              • KMDPB
                Poo Master
                • Sep 2020
                • 540
                • Tappahannock VA

                #8
                Looks great! Did you make your belt sander or assemble it from a kit?
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                • DocsMachine
                  MCB Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 2700
                  • Alaska

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KMDPB
                  Looks great! Did you make your belt sander or assemble it from a kit?
                  - Yes and no.

                  I started out making one from typical internet plans, though being chronically broke and short on time, it took me a lot longer than it should.



                  The interesting thing is, literally the week I was finishing up the homebuilt, I found a commercial one, brand new, never even had a belt on it, in the local secondhand store, for half the price of new.



                  I finished up the homebrew and immediately sold that off to a buddy of mine, who immediately started making some really nice knives with it. I made a stand for the new one, and have been tooling it up, as I can afford it, with more wheels and belts ever since.

                  I almost sat down to make my own small-wheel fixture a couple of times, but I rather chronically have more things to do than time to do them.

                  Doc.
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                  • KMDPB
                    KMDPB commented
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                    Wow nice find!
                • DocsMachine
                  MCB Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 2700
                  • Alaska

                  #10
                  Something a little more finished- custom grips for an MCB'ers Buzzard!



                  Not only did they come out well (I'd like to think) but I also managed to put together a pretty decent video on making them. I'll link that as soon as it's done uploading through my ridiculously slow connection.

                  Doc.
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                  • Loophole
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                    They look amazing Doc! Even with that excuse of a hardline in the background lol 😆
                • DocsMachine
                  MCB Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 2700
                  • Alaska

                  #11
                  The hardline is next, don't worry.

                  And here's that video!



                  Doc.
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                  • DocsMachine
                    MCB Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 2700
                    • Alaska

                    #12
                    Anyone else want some custom-fit grips for a nonstandard grip frame?

                    Doc.
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                    • waffles2
                      at WAHO
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 231
                      • Atlanta

                      #13
                      Yes…I have a Regency Crome and no grips have ever looked right on it. The grips either hang off the frame or don’t contour the humpback. Drives me crazy. Search the gun on Google and you’ll see for yourself.
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                      • DocsMachine
                        MCB Member
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 2700
                        • Alaska

                        #14
                        Send 'er in. I'm sure I can whip up something cool.

                        Doc.
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