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    Shocker ERA & AMP bolt compatibility

    I recently picked up an ERA just to shoot it next to my AMP. Below represents light backyard testing, I have not played a game but did shoot paint. Here are some things I found.
    • The whole bolt assembly is a direct swap.
    • I was able to use the ERA bolt in an AMP if you remove the oring pictured in the PINK box
    • I was able to use the AMP bolt in an ERA if you add the oring pictured in the PINK​ box
    • By keeping green arrows together I could swap between bolt assemblies
      • I used the AMP in the ERA and vice versa with no issues. I removed/added the oring on the bolt guide deepening on the bolt I used.
    zero discernible effect to velocity when swapping parts around

    I have a shooting video and will follow up with more images if anyone is interested. There was little difference between the two. Dwell was the same, FPS was the same. I checked my FPS after every part swap. I did a lot of swapping, more than listed above, and everything seemed to move over fine. I will double check my work. ERA is supposed to handle brittle paint better. I did not test this. From an efficiency standpoint there seems to be no difference. Sound, in a quiet space, yes you will hear a small difference - on field with 10 other people shooting you will not hear a difference. It feels like the same gun, with different milling. They should release an AMP upgrade kit like the IM Pro kit for the DYE DSR+. It was nice that DYE did that without releasing a whole new marker.

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    to use the AMP bolt on an ERA I added the oring to the blue bolt guide. To use the ERA bolt on the AMP I removed the origin on the black bolt guide. Shot and chrono was the same. It did not change anything, so don't go running off to try and buy a ERA bolt for the AMP - that would be a waste of money.
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    #2
    Great work and interesting to hear after all promotion by Shocker/DLX/GoG about the "upgraded" bolt engine.
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    • The Jayster
      The Jayster commented
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      Well it is "upgraded" in the sense that they fixed the rollback issue which should not have existed in the first place.

    • tyronejk
      tyronejk commented
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      That rollback fix on the Era isn't a new solution or the best either. That anti-rollback/ARB tip has been around since the Shocker SFT days and although it keeps the ball stack straighter in the breech and feedneck, it leaves a gap between the ball and the bolt that can break fragile paint.

    #3
    Switched from the AMP to the ERA and both are very similar. I just think that the ERA is a tad smoother/quieter. I have to say that I really like what they did with the ERA's design, simple, practical yet elegant.
    Playing the game since 1990

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    • The Hobbit
      The Hobbit commented
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      I agree the ERA has an elegant appeal in it’s simplicity.

    #4
    Willballforsoup mentioned on Instagram that DLX Luxe Icon has some parts that could be swapped with the Shocker ERA. So that means Shocker AMP can probably swap parts with the new Luxe.

    I see CS2, CS3, 180r and 170r chambers at ANSgear, I wonder if those parts are interchangeable. The CS3 chamber is similar to PBGateway “whisper drive” where there are three prongs.

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      #5
      ERA, AMP, Eclipse 3M. It is hard for me to see where the original thought was added to the gamma core. It seems more of a copy than a design inspiration.

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        #6
        Yeah. Despite what GOG/SP/DLX will tell you, there's not a ton of actual value they've added to the original gamma core. Even PE has struggled to significantly differentiate the newer cores from the ones you can find in markers as old as the OG GTEK.
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